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Airport shut down #273353
01/15/2022 10:16 AM
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Good morning Folks ,
Airport currently shut down .

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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273354
01/15/2022 10:21 AM
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There were rumors of a strike this am.


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273356
01/15/2022 10:22 AM
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Lesley--On a Saturday?? OMG.. Please keep us updated..


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273358
01/15/2022 10:34 AM
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The news is coming from what we consider am unreliable source. Now saying airport open with smaller staff. Planes are coming in at the moment. We'll see.


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: BillandElaine] #273359
01/15/2022 10:36 AM
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Sounds like something deliberate, to screw up things the worst they could, on a Saturday. I feel sorry for anyone who is coming in or leaving today.


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273360
01/15/2022 10:41 AM
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Yikes. My dad is there now, leaving today. I think he has one of Leslie’s cars! Following ….

Re: Airport shut down [Re: NebraskaLori] #273364
01/15/2022 10:56 AM
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Lori--if you hear from him, please post.


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Carol_Hill] #273366
01/15/2022 11:00 AM
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Okay back to normal , back pay money issue and used Saturday deliberate .

Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273367
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Lesley--thanks for the update. Yes, for sure, on Saturday, to screw up things as much as possible.


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273385
01/15/2022 01:14 PM
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🚨🚨 AIRPORT ALERT 🚨🚨
Princess Juliana international Airport (SXM) will have a scheduled closure at 6pm, today, Saturday, January 15, to ensure safety due to limited staff at the Air Traffic Services (ATS).
(Source: SXM Airport)


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273389
01/15/2022 01:34 PM
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Today's second flight on American Airlines from Charlotte has been diverted to Miami and will leave there at 6:00 AM tomorrow. Today's second flight from Miami will now depart tomorrow at 7:00.

Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273390
01/15/2022 01:45 PM
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Daughter and her family are on the Delta n/s from JFK. Hopefully they will have no difficulties. I’m sure they’ll be okay…….they should be landing very soon if not already.

Edited to add - as of right now, their flight should be on the ground at PJIA. Amen and thank you, Lord, for another safe flight.

Last edited by pat; 01/15/2022 02:38 PM.

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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273391
01/15/2022 02:47 PM
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JBU1877, JBU995 & UAL1629 commercial flights + N132D & N212RG private all currently (18:50UTC) in hold pattern ~200m NW of SXM, maybe something to do with this - or maybe not, just saying.
Looks like the a/c in the hold are now being sequenced inbound, presumably because the airport closing time was pushed back to 9pm local so they will be able to get in and off again today.

Last edited by CYOWDave; 01/15/2022 03:14 PM. Reason: added additional tail numbers. Added a/c now inbound.
Re: Airport shut down [Re: Mikel] #273392
01/15/2022 02:48 PM
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Mikel--wow, a lot of unhappy people today.


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: pat] #273393
01/15/2022 02:49 PM
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pat--glad that Kim and family were able to get on island.


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273394
01/15/2022 03:05 PM
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Princess Juliana International Airport - St. Maarten
3a87a7860g1shoure51i6f24 ·
UPDATED:
Public Service Announcement:
The Princess Juliana international Airport (SXM) is hereby announcing an updated closure time for today at 9:00PM. The previous notification of 6:00PM was to ensure safety, due to the limited staff at the Air Traffic Services (ATS).
If and when there are any changes, Airport’s Corporate Communications will update all stakeholders and the general public accordingly. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273395
01/15/2022 03:16 PM
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Hi, Carol and me, too. They’re only there for four nights so I was hoping things would be smooth…….
Just had a note from her - said she cleared the airport in 29 minutes, all entry paperwork done, and it was easy-peazy. Of course, no bags to claim and the airport situation had to help.

Last edited by pat; 01/15/2022 03:34 PM.

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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273396
01/15/2022 03:17 PM
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We are some of the unlucky folks who's Saturday morning flight has been delayed until Sunday morning. I've sent an email to EHAS but haven's received an answer yet. Does anyone have any idea how/if the change in arrival date will impact our EHAS auth/QR code?

Re: Airport shut down [Re: IslandBound9] #273397
01/15/2022 03:26 PM
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IslandBound--sorry to hear about your situation. Did you try to call EHAS? Phone number is 721-542-1570. Hope tomorrow goes smoothly for you.


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273398
01/15/2022 03:34 PM
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Thanks Carol, I've tried to call several times but no-one is picking up.

Re: Airport shut down [Re: IslandBound9] #273399
01/15/2022 03:43 PM
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OK, best wishes..


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273400
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My advice is to resubmit your EHAS applications. The first roadblock is your airline. You may be denied boarding without an EHAS approval for tomorrow. The second roadblock is SXM itself, and getting an answer out of them today may not be possible. Even if you're told that today's approval will be accepted tomorrow there's no guarantee that will be the case when you eventually arrive.

Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273405
01/15/2022 04:45 PM
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I would go totally batsh*t if the AIRLINE told me I couldn't board because of a flight diversion...and....what would be the reason for a fully vaxxed person to be denied....testing for return to the USA has a 24 hour wiggle room built in just because of this

Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273406
01/15/2022 04:59 PM
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Just received the following via email from EHAS

Thanks-for-contacting-SXM-Ehas.
Please-check-with-your-departure-airline-to-see-if-they-will-accept-your-samne-pre-approval-letter.-On-our-end-it’s-ok

Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273407
01/15/2022 05:32 PM
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Re: Airport Situation, Summary Proceedings (Kort Geding)
The decision
The Court of First Instance of Sint Maarten: prohibits the union from continuing or supporting the de facto strike that is currently taking place and orders the union to call on its members to start work from 17:00 this afternoon, on pain of a penalty of US $100,000 for each hour that it fails to do so, determines that this prohibition applies until otherwise decided in summary proceedings, declares this decision provisionally enforceable, on the minute and on all days and hours, determines that the hearing of this summary proceedings will take place on Monday, January 17, 2022 at 1.30 pm at the Courthouse, defers any further decision.
(Source: Courthouse of Sint Maarten)


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: IslandBound9] #273408
01/15/2022 05:39 PM
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IslandBound--good for you.. Hope tomorrow goes smoothly.


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: BillandElaine] #273409
01/15/2022 05:39 PM
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Elaine--thanks for the update.


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: BillandElaine] #273412
01/15/2022 06:02 PM
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Not true .

Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273414
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Lesley--sorry, what's not true??


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Carol_Hill] #273417
01/15/2022 06:08 PM
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Okay I saw the mentioned about closure at 6.00pm , however I just noticed that she placed the updated info to 9.00pm via the Court decision.
I just got off from work .

Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273418
01/15/2022 06:46 PM
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Around 530p there was about an hour of continuous takeoffs...with AF going in the opposite direction after another AF had just landed. Everyone else went west...ATC was cranking them out....

Re: Airport shut down [Re: boucharda] #273424
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Yes , and we see them everyday , simply because our front balcony patio looks over the whole Runway . Cool .

Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273442
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I noticed that todays AA non-stop Philadelphia to SXM flight 2312 has been re-scheduled for tomorrow morning.

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Yep, that's us CJIMI, hopefully all goes well in the AM.

Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273448
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it seems worth ALL the turmoil we have been experiencing from ....Irma /airport damage, covid, etc etc) but enough is enough eh??

Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273450
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It seems that you have to have a ton of patience's to fly into "our island" these days!! These workers got some set of balls talking about striking! There are so many people on the island dying to find work!! You want to strike? GO, don't come back! I'll find a replacement in seconds!


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Colour1] #273451
01/16/2022 08:51 AM
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I don't think that there are many people on the Island looking for Air Traffic Control jobs and the proposed 12.5% cut in salaries might have had something to do with it.

Re: Airport shut down [Re: Colour1] #273452
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Originally Posted by Colour1
It seems that you have to have a ton of patience's to fly into "our island" these days!! These workers got some set of balls talking about striking! There are so many people on the island dying to find work!! You want to strike? GO, don't come back! I'll find a replacement in seconds!


I don't want just anyone being an "air traffic controller" if they fire "these" strikers. Thinking that you can just throw anyone up in the tower and the planes will land themselves will lend a whole new level of excitement to traveling to the island by plane. SXM is not the USA, I don't think they need Ronald Reagan styled labor practices.


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Re: Airport shut down [Re: Colour1] #273454
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Originally Posted by Colour1
It seems that you have to have a ton of patience's to fly into "our island" these days!! These workers got some set of balls talking about striking! There are so many people on the island dying to find work!! You want to strike? GO, don't come back! I'll find a replacement in seconds!



You're kidding .......right???

Re: Airport shut down [Re: Kennys] #273456
01/16/2022 10:03 AM
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There was also a mention of "back pay" as an issue.

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