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Re: Questions for a friend...
[Re: BEERMAN]
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07/26/2022 12:07 AM
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Rick: Your friend could do with a 36-40' power cat. I have a friend too. Retired DL airline captain, lifetime sailor. We both grew up in S. Fla. He has sailed competitively for 40 years. Hobies to monohulls, 12 feet to 12 meters. Last year, He took his family (3 generations) on a Moorings 46 Power Cat in the BVI. He said that’s the only way he would do it again! I said he's crazy! I'm waiting a couple of years until our our third generations are a little older and we can go sailing on a 45-50 sailing Cat.
Then again, in a 24 hour day on any sailboat (especially in the BVI) how many hours will you be under sail? Isn’t that’s why sail or power catamarans are so popular! Private cabins, en suite heads, (electric-flush-freshwater,) three decks, multiple gathering spaces - and still separate places! Add gensets, A/C, Bluetooth, water makers, blue lights, ice makers!
Oh My! Wish I was there RIGHT NOW!
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Re: Questions for a friend...
[Re: BEERMAN]
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07/26/2022 12:38 PM
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Agree Beerman - we're sailors (at least when in the BVI) so our Lagoon is heaven for us but they will likely be best suited for a PC.
Last edited by MIDiver; 07/26/2022 12:39 PM.
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Re: Questions for a friend...
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07/26/2022 06:48 PM
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Lexington thank you, I always like hearing from owners. If they go that route can I bother you in a pm about miscellaneous stuff? They are talking things over and should have a decision next week.
Bailau, same to you. I’m feeling rusty after all these covid years ugh for sure...we went out for 2 weeks last June. Surprised it came back that quickly but the 514 is the devil I know and as Lexington says this group has taught me way more than anything and forever grateful.
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Re: Questions for a friend...
[Re: BEERMAN]
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08/24/2022 10:11 AM
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Steve27
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We have done powercats many times with Moorings on the old 484s and the now 514s. Our next trip in 2023 will be on the new 545. A boat captain with any power experience especially with 2 motors will have no issues. The beauty about the BVI's is everything is close and in eye shot from island to island. Where captains have problems on a cat is the throttle. Remember go slow and slight movements. Seems newer captains jam those throttles forward to mush and lunge the boat forward. They only need a tapping forward. I bring down a couple things and make a rigging system on the bow for grabbing mooring balls. We are hooked up in less than 30 seconds. You can PM me if you like. Dont be afraid of a powercat they are very easy to handle. They will provide you with a captain at no charge up to 4 hours to get you comfortable and signed off. They have some great captains that will give you great pointers and info. I have just compared marineMax and Moorings again and MarineMax is always 2K to 5K more. They will tell you about the excellent service and I have not chartered with them before so I think they would have that with their reputation. What left a bad taste in my mouth was 2017 in the mooring field of Levericks a MarineMax charter came in doing circles trying to get a ball. The boat was listing over and we went to help and learned that the captain had never driven a boat before and was allowed to take the boat. They had torn the shaft, prop and rudder system off the port side when they drove over the reef in Anegada. They cruised and the boat kept turning to starboard due to the port side was missing. Somehow luckily they made it 14 miles across the channel and into North Sound. They contacted marineMax and they were told to get off the boat and let is sink! The captain had no idea how to call a mayday or if his bilge pumps were on. We nursed the boat over to Leverick's fuel dock and a pump boat assisted pumping the water out of the boat. The next morning MarineMax sent a crew over and a diver stated there was a 5 ft hole in the bottom of the boat. The plugged it and towed the boat away. They were willing to let this boat sink in the Sound all for insurance money and not thinking of the eco-system they charter in. So I say choose wisely. Have a great time!!
Cruising the local waters here in SC and GA. Love the BVIs and miss the Tradewinds!
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Re: Questions for a friend...
[Re: MIDiver]
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08/24/2022 08:17 PM
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Steve27
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Please! It's literally is 2 feet bigger. Trust me they are not a cargo ship or an oil tanker...Plenty of room in the mooring fields.
Cruising the local waters here in SC and GA. Love the BVIs and miss the Tradewinds!
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Re: Questions for a friend...
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08/25/2022 08:49 AM
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Please! It's literally is 2 feet bigger. Trust me they are not a cargo ship or an oil tanker...Plenty of room in the mooring fields.
Depends on the mooring field, how everyone is moored, and what the wind and waves are doing. In CGB I have been within a couple of feet of another boat - certainly much closer than I was expecting or wanted - because of how the boats drifted with no real wind that day. Both the other captain and I shortened our bridals, and we were both satisfied. At the Caves, the balls are pretty tight, and I have seen boats be pretty damned close - luckily it is not an overnite stop. All I am saying is that with all the 50s coming out - and yes, the trend in charter is bigger is better - MIDiver has a point. Its just one more thing to watch out for. And for those who say its not, well, its like everything else on the water - eventually it will come to visit. Keep Smiling!!!
Peter s/y Time Will Tell (2019 Lagoon 42) peter@syTimeWillTell.com
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Re: Questions for a friend...
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08/26/2022 08:51 AM
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I thought this thread was done, BUT before it goes out in the weeds....my friend, his buddy and their wives have decided to charter a PC with Moorings. "Buddy" owns and operates a river boat charter company, has a 100T Masters, from the little I know he well exceeds the qualification checklist!! As I said at the beginning, my friend has chartered in the BVI's once and had a bad experience, Buddy has never been to the BVI's, with recommendations here and a little research they decided on the boat and charter company that fit their needs.
I asked the question about chartering a sail cat and not actually raising a sail, I now understand the negatives with this, but FYI Moorings sent them a link to the new owners version Leopard 42, pretty nice! Moorings said if someone on your crew has sail cat experience they could charter that. So, it sounds like at least Moorings requires sail experience.
I haven't heard from them in a couple weeks. Now that the hard part of choosing the boat is done they'll start asking more detailed questions I'm sure. They charter in March 2023.
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