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Re: El Zafrio in foreclosure [Re: MotownTim] #289742
10/20/2022 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MotownTim
I thought the location was great. Big wide beach. Lots of room between chairs. Ample parking. But they could never get the food thing right and it wasn’t cheap.


Exactly!!!! Love the location - but food was spotty at best. Loved it when it was Tahoma as well. Expensive to run a guest house also. Should have stayed as a beach bar offering dinner some nights.

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Re: El Zafrio in foreclosure [Re: kim] #289744
10/20/2022 10:34 AM
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Kim--there's no way that someone could survive at that location with just a beach bar. Just not enough traffic, especially at night. Whenever we would drive by there at night, there would be no cars there.


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Re: El Zafrio in foreclosure [Re: Carol_Hill] #289758
10/20/2022 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Carol_Hill
Kim--there's no way that someone could survive at that location with just a beach bar. Just not enough traffic, especially at night. Whenever we would drive by there at night, there would be no cars there.


If managed properly, if a lively social media account was set up word would
Get out. Live music, a nice watering hole. It’s probably one of a few places that actually has parking.

Re: El Zafrio in foreclosure [Re: kim] #289768
10/20/2022 05:02 PM
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I still think the hotel would have to be rented, in order to make money there. $20,000/month just for rent, without any other expenses?


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Re: El Zafrio in foreclosure [Re: SXMScubaman] #289770
10/20/2022 06:08 PM
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Unless there is an adjustment in the rental price I think this building will be vacant for some time.

Re: El Zafrio in foreclosure [Re: SXMScubaman] #289772
10/20/2022 06:42 PM
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Agreed! That’s a really tough nut to come up with based on what we’ve witnessed as far as typical nights dinner crowd.

Personally speaking, I think Kim has the right idea. It could be a great location but would require much more effort than we ever saw being put forth. It’s got all the requirements as far as setting, space, parking and a very picturesque dining room but it needed a consistent chef and more promotion with a carrot to draw the right patrons.

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Re: El Zafrio in foreclosure [Re: Carol_Hill] #289778
10/21/2022 12:16 AM
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I don't mean for a restaurant, Carol. I was thinking for condos as the land next door is where he is building condos for sale. Thet seem to be slow to get started there.




Re: El Zafrio in foreclosure [Re: islandgem] #289784
10/21/2022 08:24 AM
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Not sure whether that would be financially feasible or not, considering they would have to knock down what's there?


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Re: El Zafrio in foreclosure [Re: SXMScubaman] #289786
10/21/2022 08:34 AM
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I thought Toppers purchased property in Burgeaux Bay. I know the land is cleared and it’s Not even close to ElZafiro. Is he also building the units on the same property (or next to) ElZafiro and I missed that. I thought that was the land owners not toppers

Re: El Zafrio in foreclosure [Re: SXMScubaman] #289804
10/21/2022 06:58 PM
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Maybe something like below could be built on that location!

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Re: El Zafrio in foreclosure [Re: bdeeley] #289806
10/21/2022 07:19 PM
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I'd be interested in something on the 90th floor. Maybe even take 2 floors.

Re: El Zafrio in foreclosure [Re: kim] #289811
10/21/2022 10:47 PM
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Yes, he is going to build condos next to El Zafiro, but nothing is happening there yet. Nothing happens quickly on the island.😊




Re: El Zafrio in foreclosure [Re: Carol_Hill] #289812
10/22/2022 02:53 AM
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It's funny, they have had bands there a few times, I could hear them warming up when I stood on the beach. But once on the deck. Wasn't loud at all. But you're right!! He'd make it obnoxiously loud! And yes Kim, I was never a fan of him, before or after "said" murder investigation!


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