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Re: Quick question on meats
[Re: GettinBye]
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11/01/2023 02:18 PM
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If you freeze the steaks hard and pack them in a Solar Bear cooler they should be good for 24 hours. If you make it your carry-on or personal item you know it will arrive with you; checked luggage can be delayed. There is no issue with bringing them into the BVI, just declare and pay duty.
Steakation Butchers is currently closed while they move from Waterfront Drive to Wickham's, the road leading to the Moorings.
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Re: Quick question on meats
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11/01/2023 03:34 PM
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As Batman's Wife stated... I believe she meant Polar Bear Cooler. We use a 24 can Polar bear cooler and freeze out steaks and other meat, already seasoned and Vac Packed. We travel from ATL and sometimes overnight in transit. No need for DrY Ice (Although up to 5 pounds is allowed). Pack tight and minimal airspace and it will remain frozen for 24 hr plus trip. We season, Vac-Pack, load into polar Bear cooler laying on its side, and place entire cooler in freezer. Thus no airspaces between packs of meat. Polar Bear Coolers https://polarbearcoolers.com/products/original-24-pack-soft-cooler. Frequently we find them on sale, but ours have lasted over 7 years with 6 plus BVI trips each year.
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Re: Quick question on meats
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11/01/2023 06:02 PM
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Batman? Were that the case we'd be driving a much cooler car than our 1973 Rover! I meant Solar Bear - for awhile they made that model, which supposedly kept things frozen for a day on a boat in the sun. One tip is to stuff it with ice packs the day before you put your meat in. It cools down the insulation and helps keep the meat frozen longer. We have a Polar Bear Solar Bear. It is amazing. It is also waterproof. I really wish they would bring these models back.
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Re: Quick question on meats
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11/01/2023 11:27 PM
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GettinBye, I’ll be staying right next door to you at Mahoe from January 1-12, so PM me about getting together if those include your dates. I’m an inveterate (and finicky) steak guy and bring them down on occasion, and have done a lot of research on the subject of freezing, etc., so wanted to weigh in on the subject, and just augment the great advice you’ve already obtained from other posters about packing a cooler.
First of all, what I’ll add is that if you vacuum seal and then freeze the steaks, you need not worry about them going bad in 24 hours, even if they fully thaw out as long as they stay below 42 degrees; in fact, you’re likely good for 36 hours if you pack the cooler properly. As an aside, one myth is that you cannot safely consume steaks that have thawed and then been frozen again - but it’s just not true; if they are vacuum-sealed, you can do that without fear of the meat posing a health risk. All of the companies that sell high-end steak online plan for them to be in some state of thaw by the time they reach a consumer, and here’s a good mini-treatise on that subject of defrosting and refreezing, among others: Refreezing Thawed Meat Properly | Steak University (mychicagosteak.com).
Moreover, given your timetable, even if your steaks have fully thawed by the time you get to VG, they will probably have defrosted safely because it will have occurred slowly and in a chamber that likely has not exceeded that threshold of 42 degrees. Because vacuum-sealed steaks will last two weeks in the refrigerator even after they have fully thawed, you’ll be fine even if you want to save some of them for consumption toward the end of your stay.
The proper vacuum sealing is crucial, and if your butcher has a Cry-O-Vac™ or similar machine, have him or her do it for you. Otherwise, if you don’t want to purchase a home appliance for future use ($40-$80 on Amazon), see if you can borrow one from a friend and use theirs. MAF
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Re: Quick question on meats
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11/02/2023 07:38 AM
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I buy one of the smallest cheap coolers you can get. The lunch size ones about 12” by 10”. Pack it solid with meats and then freeze the entire cooler. Pull it out of freezer when we leave and steaks are always fine. Checked bag lost once and steaks were still good 36 hours later. I do tape it shut.
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Re: Quick question on meats
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11/02/2023 09:47 AM
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We have the 12 pack Solar Bear, which is 14"x12"x7", well within American Airlines size guidelines for a personal item (18"x14"x8"). The Polar Bear backpack would also work at 12"x7"x18". You might even get away with the 24 can at 10"x18"x12".
I have put my passport in the cooler outside zip pocket, and put everything else in my roll-aboard. The only problem I have encountered is security in San Juan, who made me unpack the whole thing, which was neatly assembled like a three-dimensional jigsaw puzzle - the one time we were on separate tickets and tight on time! Otherwise you are fine once you have cleared security at your home airport.
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Re: Quick question on meats
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11/03/2023 08:54 PM
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Cleo, afraid not. Back to Boston on January the 11th (ugh) and then back to VG in mid-February. If you're around from then until late March, give me a shout. PS: Got a good chuckle out of your San Juan story....
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