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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: Matt W] #309788
12/03/2023 11:08 AM
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That is exactly what I imagined!😂

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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: Matt W] #309791
12/03/2023 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt W
Looks like the party is underway this morning.


LOL!
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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: RatmansWife] #309794
12/03/2023 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RatmansWife

The government is looking for as many places to ruin as possible, although they wouldn't phrase it like that. Look at Long Bay east, look at Spring Bay.


Spring Bay has been targeted for excursions by cruise lines? Are they providing amenities like at Long Bay, East?
Next it will be Savannah Bay…

The Carib is shrinking faster and faster as the cruise industry caters to today’s “travelers”…


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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309798
12/03/2023 02:18 PM
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Spring Bay? Did something new happen there? I have only ever seen the crowds descend on The Baths. Even when they are crawling like ants over there we are usually left alone at SB.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309802
12/03/2023 03:02 PM
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I have seen Spring Bay on some private excursion lists, but nothing like The Baths or Long Bay East. Concerns have been expressed about the over-use of The Baths, hence the one-way path. The issue is with more and larger cruise ships, there is a constant hunt for new and different shore options.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309804
12/03/2023 03:32 PM
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The ridiculous thing is the $$$$$ spent on bringing millions of tons of sand to Brandywine Bay for the cruise ship excursions.All I have ever seen there are goats and a few kids with radio controlled boats.Bring them to Brandywine Bay and stop wrecking the islands..PLEASE. Natures Little Secrets???Seriously?????

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309844
12/04/2023 12:27 PM
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Well, looks like it’s official…

https://www.ncl.com/shore-excursion...hWeight&sortOrder=asc&perPage=12

No reviews yet so probably a relatively new excursion. Also no mention of amenities..

A Trellis Bay/Guana option I didn’t know existed..
https://www.ncl.com/shore-excursion...hWeight&sortOrder=asc&perPage=12

Last edited by crmoores; 12/04/2023 12:30 PM.

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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: crmoores] #309847
12/04/2023 12:49 PM
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Sigh. Pretty soon those cruise ship crowds will be everywhere. I do not like anything about cruise ships. I have seen the negative consequences in far too many places.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309853
12/04/2023 01:42 PM
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The irony of the NCL description is stunning, "Although the setting is practically identical to the more famous beach at The Baths, (there) won’t be nearly as many people. "
Pogo, "We have seen the enemy and it is us"
Good grief.

Mike

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309865
12/04/2023 08:48 PM
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So they are doing excursions onto Guana? I thought Guana was totally private? That's the whole selling point I thought-that they allow only like 35 guests at a time (or rent the whole island yourself)? I can't imagine exclusive guests to Guana wanting to share it with day trippers from cruise lines. Or am I misreading or getting this all wrong?

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309874
12/05/2023 08:08 AM
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The cruise ship industry is mean, ugly and ruthless. They generally find a way to get what they want.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309876
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All beaches are public so technically they can land guests wherever they like and occupy up to the high water mark. Surprised that Guana will tolerate it however. Seems you just can’t escape them nowadays no matter how hard you try. At least Anegada is spared this menace - for now.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309877
12/05/2023 09:27 AM
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The fact that Guana is tolerating it is what made me give pause. There's no way their guests would be happy about this. And there is also no way tour operators are keeping day trippers to the high water mark. Keeping cruisers in line is like herding cats.
This is all just so unfortunate and sad.
Follow the money.....

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309881
12/05/2023 12:13 PM
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Exactly. Follow the money.

Please don't tell them about Anegada.


Go Irish!!

Bill
Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309882
12/05/2023 12:24 PM
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The cruise ship industry has a very ambitious ship building schedule. The biggest problem they have is where to take the people. They will do whatever it takes for access.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: crmoores] #309894
12/05/2023 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by crmoores
Well, looks like it’s official…

https://www.ncl.com/shore-excursion...hWeight&sortOrder=asc&perPage=12

No reviews yet so probably a relatively new excursion. Also no mention of amenities..


This web page is ridiculous! The photo that they provide is not Spring Bay National park, but is actually Valley Trunk beach.
This beach also lost all its palm trees during Hurricane Irma in 2017, so the photo is over 6 years old. They have been doing
a Spring Bay excursion from Tortola for many years. Also, there are no amenities at Spring Bay.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #310608
12/20/2023 07:24 PM
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for the White Bay potential nightmare, is that location at Gertrude's only for the Grand Opening or does anyone know if that is going to be the permanent location of Salt Water silliness


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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: crmoores] #311108
01/02/2024 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by crmoores
I understand Long Bay, Beef has been catering to cruisers via cruise line excursions for some time now. That was one spot we enjoyed alone years ago when ships were in…Next stop - Smuggler’s Cove…

Remembering a brief discussion years ago about an “aerial tram” or something being built and new restroom facilities added to make SC more accessible and comfortable to day visitors (cruisers). Not sure if the tram was a joke but I sure hope so!


Well, not an aerial tram, yet, but the cruise lines are now offering Jeep excursions that include Smuggler’s Cove…can’t even hide there anymore…
🙉😟


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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #311160
01/03/2024 09:32 AM
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Darn it frown


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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #311391
01/07/2024 02:36 PM
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So now that some time has passed, is there still jet skis and banana boat rides in White's Bay? I maybe rethinking of our stops or location all together now. JVD is one of my favorite places in the world to unwind and relax.


Cruising the local waters here in SC and GA. Love the BVIs and miss the Tradewinds!
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