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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: Matt W] #309788 12/03/2023 11:08 AM 12/03/2023 11:08 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 143 Folsom Lake, CA L Latadjust Traveler
Latadjust Traveler L Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 143 Folsom Lake, CA	That is exactly what I imagined!😂

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Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: Matt W] #309791 12/03/2023 11:41 AM 12/03/2023 11:41 AM
Joined: Apr 2015 Posts: 21 Toronto, Canada A AquaMusic Traveler
AquaMusic Traveler A Joined: Apr 2015 Posts: 21 Toronto, Canada	Originally Posted by Matt W Looks like the party is underway this morning. LOL!

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: RatmansWife] #309794 12/03/2023 01:17 PM 12/03/2023 01:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,457 Finger Lake Region crmoores Traveler
crmoores Traveler Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,457 Finger Lake Region	Originally Posted by RatmansWife The government is looking for as many places to ruin as possible, although they wouldn't phrase it like that. Look at Long Bay east, look at Spring Bay. Spring Bay has been targeted for excursions by cruise lines? Are they providing amenities like at Long Bay, East? Next it will be Savannah Bay… The Carib is shrinking faster and faster as the cruise industry caters to today’s “travelers”… "Travel changes you. As you move through this life and this world you change things slightly, you leave marks behind, however small. And in return, life — and travel — leaves marks on you.” -Anthony Bourdain

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309798 12/03/2023 02:18 PM 12/03/2023 02:18 PM
Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 371 New Paltz, NY, Narragansett, R... skipdastraw Traveler
skipdastraw Traveler Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 371 New Paltz, NY, Narragansett, R...	Spring Bay? Did something new happen there? I have only ever seen the crowds descend on The Baths. Even when they are crawling like ants over there we are usually left alone at SB.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309802 12/03/2023 03:02 PM 12/03/2023 03:02 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,658 Memphis, BVI, CT R RatmansWife Traveler
RatmansWife Traveler R Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,658 Memphis, BVI, CT	I have seen Spring Bay on some private excursion lists, but nothing like The Baths or Long Bay East. Concerns have been expressed about the over-use of The Baths, hence the one-way path. The issue is with more and larger cruise ships, there is a constant hunt for new and different shore options.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309804 12/03/2023 03:32 PM 12/03/2023 03:32 PM
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 17,041 Tortola/ Sonoma, California Manpot Traveler
Manpot Traveler Joined: May 2002 Posts: 17,041 Tortola/ Sonoma, California	The ridiculous thing is the $$$$$ spent on bringing millions of tons of sand to Brandywine Bay for the cruise ship excursions.All I have ever seen there are goats and a few kids with radio controlled boats.Bring them to Brandywine Bay and stop wrecking the islands..PLEASE. Natures Little Secrets???Seriously?????

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309844 12/04/2023 12:27 PM 12/04/2023 12:27 PM
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crmoores Traveler Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,457 Finger Lake Region	Well, looks like it’s official… https://www.ncl.com/shore-excursion...hWeight&sortOrder=asc&perPage=12 No reviews yet so probably a relatively new excursion. Also no mention of amenities.. A Trellis Bay/Guana option I didn’t know existed.. https://www.ncl.com/shore-excursion...hWeight&sortOrder=asc&perPage=12 Last edited by crmoores; 12/04/2023 12:30 PM. "Travel changes you. As you move through this life and this world you change things slightly, you leave marks behind, however small. And in return, life — and travel — leaves marks on you.” -Anthony Bourdain

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: crmoores] #309847 12/04/2023 12:49 PM 12/04/2023 12:49 PM
Joined: Jun 2020 Posts: 1,154 M MIDiver Traveler
MIDiver Traveler M Joined: Jun 2020 Posts: 1,154	Sigh. Pretty soon those cruise ship crowds will be everywhere. I do not like anything about cruise ships. I have seen the negative consequences in far too many places.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309853 12/04/2023 01:42 PM 12/04/2023 01:42 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 594 Michigan I IWIWSE Traveler
IWIWSE Traveler I Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 594 Michigan	The irony of the NCL description is stunning, "Although the setting is practically identical to the more famous beach at The Baths, (there) won’t be nearly as many people. " Pogo, "We have seen the enemy and it is us" Good grief. Mike

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309865 12/04/2023 08:48 PM 12/04/2023 08:48 PM
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skipdastraw Traveler Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 371 New Paltz, NY, Narragansett, R...	So they are doing excursions onto Guana? I thought Guana was totally private? That's the whole selling point I thought-that they allow only like 35 guests at a time (or rent the whole island yourself)? I can't imagine exclusive guests to Guana wanting to share it with day trippers from cruise lines. Or am I misreading or getting this all wrong?

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309874 12/05/2023 08:08 AM 12/05/2023 08:08 AM
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 7,034 GA/NC GeorgeC1 OP Traveler
GeorgeC1 OP Traveler Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 7,034 GA/NC	The cruise ship industry is mean, ugly and ruthless. They generally find a way to get what they want.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309876 12/05/2023 08:34 AM 12/05/2023 08:34 AM
Joined: Jun 2020 Posts: 1,154 M MIDiver Traveler
MIDiver Traveler M Joined: Jun 2020 Posts: 1,154	All beaches are public so technically they can land guests wherever they like and occupy up to the high water mark. Surprised that Guana will tolerate it however. Seems you just can’t escape them nowadays no matter how hard you try. At least Anegada is spared this menace - for now.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309877 12/05/2023 09:27 AM 12/05/2023 09:27 AM
Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 371 New Paltz, NY, Narragansett, R... skipdastraw Traveler
skipdastraw Traveler Joined: Nov 2021 Posts: 371 New Paltz, NY, Narragansett, R...	The fact that Guana is tolerating it is what made me give pause. There's no way their guests would be happy about this. And there is also no way tour operators are keeping day trippers to the high water mark. Keeping cruisers in line is like herding cats. This is all just so unfortunate and sad. Follow the money.....

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309881 12/05/2023 12:13 PM 12/05/2023 12:13 PM
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ndfaninnc Traveler Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 791 Kannapolis, NC	Exactly. Follow the money. Please don't tell them about Anegada. Go Irish!! Bill

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #309882 12/05/2023 12:24 PM 12/05/2023 12:24 PM
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 7,034 GA/NC GeorgeC1 OP Traveler
GeorgeC1 OP Traveler Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 7,034 GA/NC	The cruise ship industry has a very ambitious ship building schedule. The biggest problem they have is where to take the people. They will do whatever it takes for access.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: crmoores] #309894 12/05/2023 05:55 PM 12/05/2023 05:55 PM
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Kmon Traveler Joined: Jul 2016 Posts: 272 Va Beach	Originally Posted by crmoores Well, looks like it’s official… https://www.ncl.com/shore-excursion...hWeight&sortOrder=asc&perPage=12 No reviews yet so probably a relatively new excursion. Also no mention of amenities.. This web page is ridiculous! The photo that they provide is not Spring Bay National park, but is actually Valley Trunk beach. This beach also lost all its palm trees during Hurricane Irma in 2017, so the photo is over 6 years old. They have been doing a Spring Bay excursion from Tortola for many years. Also, there are no amenities at Spring Bay.

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #310608 12/20/2023 07:24 PM 12/20/2023 07:24 PM
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tangerine3 Traveler Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 662 Lutz, FL	for the White Bay potential nightmare, is that location at Gertrude's only for the Grand Opening or does anyone know if that is going to be the permanent location of Salt Water silliness

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: crmoores] #311108 01/02/2024 11:56 AM 01/02/2024 11:56 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,457 Finger Lake Region crmoores Traveler
crmoores Traveler Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,457 Finger Lake Region	Originally Posted by crmoores I understand Long Bay, Beef has been catering to cruisers via cruise line excursions for some time now. That was one spot we enjoyed alone years ago when ships were in…Next stop - Smuggler’s Cove… Remembering a brief discussion years ago about an “aerial tram” or something being built and new restroom facilities added to make SC more accessible and comfortable to day visitors (cruisers). Not sure if the tram was a joke but I sure hope so! Well, not an aerial tram, yet, but the cruise lines are now offering Jeep excursions that include Smuggler’s Cove…can’t even hide there anymore… 🙉😟 "Travel changes you. As you move through this life and this world you change things slightly, you leave marks behind, however small. And in return, life — and travel — leaves marks on you.” -Anthony Bourdain

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #311160 01/03/2024 09:32 AM 01/03/2024 09:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,423 Miramichi NB Canada Sandsailsun Traveler
Sandsailsun Traveler Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,423 Miramichi NB Canada	Darn it Kim

Re: Change coming to White Bay, JVD [Re: GeorgeC1] #311391 01/07/2024 02:36 PM 01/07/2024 02:36 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 321 Hilton Head, SC Steve27 Traveler
Steve27 Traveler Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 321 Hilton Head, SC	So now that some time has passed, is there still jet skis and banana boat rides in White's Bay? I maybe rethinking of our stops or location all together now. JVD is one of my favorite places in the world to unwind and relax. Cruising the local waters here in SC and GA. Love the BVIs and miss the Tradewinds!

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