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People Digging Around Turtle Nest #320155
05/24/2024 07:56 AM
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Just turned on the SSBB camera and it appears there are people around the turtle nest location. Hoping the Tortuga cam zooms in. Maybe they are moving the eggs. We need Dr. Phil, CaribLee or Lesley to investigate.

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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Whale Tail] #320156
05/24/2024 07:57 AM
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Good morning and will do.
Thanks.

Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Whale Tail] #320159
05/24/2024 08:23 AM
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Okay just spoke to people there and due to rough seas in the past , they want to relocate the eggs for safety purposes.

Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Kennys] #320160
05/24/2024 08:36 AM
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Good proactive decision.

Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Kennys] #320161
05/24/2024 08:50 AM
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Lesley--that's good news, I guess, as I was worried they would be damaged by looky-loos. I know nothing about this situation, but does the mother turtle need to come back to hatch them, or do they hatch on their own?


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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Carol_Hill] #320164
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No , Carol , they hatch by themselves and crawl back into the Ocean .

Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Kennys] #320166
05/24/2024 09:05 AM
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Lesley--Ok thanks. Good to know.


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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Whale Tail] #320188
05/24/2024 12:48 PM
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The Nature Foundation has folks who monitor the nests when found. If they find the nest is in danger, they will do what is necessary.


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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Kennys] #320191
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They are not really good mothers. πŸ˜ƒ

Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Whale Tail] #320194
05/24/2024 01:44 PM
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Well I had a message from Whale Tail. So I went out to investigate this morning at 9:46 AM. The people who are moving the turtle eggs had already left after digging them up and taking them to a safer spot for relocation.

The southern swells have eroded part of MAHO Beach creating a 6 foot drop. It was dangerously close to the Turtle nesting area.

So the decision was made to move them. Here are a couple photos showing how close the erosion was to the location of the turtle nest.

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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Whale Tail] #320197
05/24/2024 01:49 PM
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I should also mention that they are not relocating the turtle nest on any other area of Maho Beach. Here are photos looking both ways. Also a photo of the Tortuga WebCam.

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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Dr Phil SXM] #320199
05/24/2024 02:00 PM
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Thanks for the pictures. That's some drop off!!


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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Whale Tail] #320203
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Carol, there was a weather system that passed by us to the west and went over the Dominican Republic, San Juan and the Virgin Islands. We just got a little of it. That was Wednesday and a bit of Thursday. We’re back to sunny weather and hot temperatures.

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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Dr Phil SXM] #320204
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Phil--I hear it has been unseasonably warm in many places in the Caribbean. My brother in law is living on St Croix now and there have been heat advisories for there.


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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Carol_Hill] #320330
05/27/2024 07:40 AM
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Carol, we have been finding it quite warm this month, it has felt more like July than May.


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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Ritchard] #320334
05/27/2024 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ritchard
Carol, we have been finding it quite warm this month, it has felt more like July than May.

Yes. Much warmer this May then previous Mays. Can't imagine what July will be like when we come back on the 6th. Will be a quick turn around as we don't leave sxm till June 4th.

Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: SXMScubaman] #320339
05/27/2024 08:55 AM
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We had 100 here yesterday in Central Florida. Weather really sucks so far this summer.


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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Whale Tail] #320342
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Carol we figured out a way not to ever hit 100Β° up north here by converting to Celsius in the 1970s πŸ˜ƒ

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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Dr Phil SXM] #320344
05/27/2024 09:16 AM
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Phil--my perception is that Canada never gets that hot anyway, but I could be wrong.


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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Whale Tail] #320345
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it has happened in the past. But not a common occurrence. Most of our temperatures in the summer go into the 80s. I will take that though. I get my hot temperatures when I am in SXM in September. Hot and humid, but I’ll will take that as well.

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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Whale Tail] #320501
05/31/2024 07:47 AM
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Good news...the turtle that laid them there obviously didn't know about the history of that beach!


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Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Whale Tail] #320504
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Update May 30, 2024 7 PM
NATURE FOUNDATION ST. MAARTEN
On Monday, Nature Foundation staff attempted a second excavation of the Maho Beach leatherback sea turtle nest laid in April. While the nest was not originally relocated because the exact location of the eggs could not be found, it was marked by delineating poles and monitored by staff on a daily basis.

Unfortunately, excessive beach erosion and some poor visitor behavior - including tourists posing for photos within the markers! - forced us to try to relocate the nest a second time for fear of losing it. ❌ As a reminder, disturbing sea turtles or their nests is strictly forbidden and punishable by law, even if no harm was intended.

Relocating a nest can be risky, particularly once the eggs have already remained in the nest for some time, so this decision was not made lightly. However, despite a laborious attempt to find the eggs, none were found during the second excavation. The Nature Foundation has thus concluded that it is not possible to confirm the presence of leatherback eggs on Maho Beach. The poles and tape have since been removed to prevent them from being swept away as the beach continues to erode.

It may be that the leatherback did not successfully lay her clutch after digging the nest, perhaps due to stress from curious witnesses who got a little too close. A second presumed leatherback nest on Mullet Bay beach may belong to this same female, as they will lay multiples clutches in a season, or lay on another beach after abandoning one undesirable site.

We understand this may be a disappointing update, but we thank everyone for their interest and attention. Nature Foundation staff had the opportunity to chat with several people about this and we are always glad for the opportunity to raise awareness about Sint Maarten's native wildlife. πŸ’š

While we cannot be sure that there are sea turtle eggs on Maho Beach, the Nature Foundation asks that nearby vendors or early morning beachgoers contact us immediately if any hatching activity is seen in the next four weeks. During regular hours, call +1 (721) 544-4267. For after-hours reporting, use our WhatsApp number +1 (721) 581-6365.

FYI Drphilsxm

Re: People Digging Around Turtle Nest [Re: Dr Phil SXM] #320509
05/31/2024 08:38 AM
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That's too bad. I thought they had found the eggs the first time.


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