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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: timnboston]
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04/25/2015 07:32 AM
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timnboston said: Mergers in the Airline industry have reduced the number of seats available and competition. The days of cheap flights are going the way of decent service for passangers. You've about summed it up as well as it can be said. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Thumbsup.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: timnboston]
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04/25/2015 07:55 AM
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Airfare pricing is mostly driven by demand...and yes, less capacity creates less availability but I did a little study using BOS-SXM 2nd Saturday (one week) R/T with no overnights or excessive layovers
Cheapest "normal" fare;
May...$615 June..$545 July..$777 August$701 Sept..$425 Oct...$583 Nov...$428 Dec...$468 Jan...$427
So there are still decent fares out there depending on when you want to travel AND how early you book that travel
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: zippy]
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04/25/2015 09:53 AM
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My wife and I had booked airfare round trip nonstop from EWR to SXM the last week of October 2015 for $423 round trip PP...Little did we know when we booked the flight with United they werent going nonstop in October..United cancelled my non stop on 10/24 and offered to book a nonstop to miami and then book my wife and i a non stop to sxm with an hour and half layover for same price with American airlines...after a months time they cancelled the flight to miami and tried to switch us to a flight that would have landed in Miami a half hour after the American flight left for SXM....So i had United book our flight out of JFK landing in plenty of time to connect with our flight to SXM ..the flight back on October 31 will be non stop with United..all and we kept the same price of $423 round trip PP so its not non stop going to SXM but im still happy about the price.. United is really the pits!!
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: zippy]
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04/26/2015 02:57 PM
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We are going in July, and I still haven't booked the airfare. Have the SXM place, and also 3 nights booked in AXA.....but these airfares are the worst I've seen in over 20 years for July. This may be the end of our twice a year trips to SXM. Other locations don't cost as much. I'm sad. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: PreK176]
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04/28/2015 12:33 PM
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As always, people from the Northeast have it much easier than even here in Florida, as far as airfares. I just did a quick check on airfares from Florida for some random dates in July. The cheapest nonstop I could find from Miami was around $650 on one date. July 18 to 25 (a Saturday to Saturday) was $800 for a non stop from Miami. Connections from either Tampa or Orlando were around $750 (except for an OVERNIGHT connection---From FLORIDA?? -- which was around $500 and involved flying north and spending overnight in either Charlotte or Philly on US Air). Jet Blue prices were similar.
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: SXMScubaman]
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04/28/2015 01:56 PM
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: dane]
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04/28/2015 06:27 PM
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some "vacation-oriented" airlines, like Sun Country, don't fly to St Martin in the summer. As others have mentioned: less seats = higher prices.
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: dane]
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04/28/2015 06:27 PM
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Our September flight on USelessAir is $3 more than two years ago. AA has, unfortunately, matched that price now, which would have resulted in a ~$65 premium over last year, but thankfully, we now have a JetBlue option which saved us ~$30 compared with last year and is the cheapest option since our first trip in 2012.
This year, skipping the RDU - CLT portion of our flight would save us $16, unlike 2013 where USAir would have charged us $75/each for flying less.
I have quit trying to make sense of the flight prices. we have a range of about three weeks of dates when we can fly, from which I pick the cheapest one I can find shortly after I finish filing my taxes, then be thankful that Chloe at Club Fantastico is understanding of my situation, my wife has a somewhat flexible work schedule, that I have an understanding boss and an employer with a generous PTO program.
Thankfully, nothing else in my vacation is even as remotely frustrating as the airlines. If it were, I'd likely stay home. But thankfully, my experience this year regarding off-season airfare has not been as bad as others have reported.
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: PnPinNC]
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04/29/2015 06:35 AM
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For the past three years, we've made the 4 1/2 hour drive to Charlotte (we live 2 hours east of Raleigh). I've felt the nonstop flight, along with not having to get up in the middle of the night to get to the airport, wait around for two flights, and shlep carryons between planes, was worth it. My husband has always disagreed, so this year we're flying out of New Bern. The flights were a few dollars cheaper, and we'll save the cost of gas, two nights in a hotel, three restaurant meals for each of us, and nine hours of driving. With that savings, we added just a few more dollars, and are flying first class. Hopefully that will take some of the pain out of getting up at 2 AM to drive to the airport.
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: GaKaye]
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04/29/2015 10:01 AM
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GaKaye said: ...With that savings, we added just a few more dollars, and are flying first class. Hopefully that will take some of the pain out of getting up at 2 AM to drive to the airport. (Getting up at 2:00 AM + First Class) definitely better than Crunched Class. Only problem going forward will be how to figure out First Class all the time. :-)
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: PnPinNC]
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04/29/2015 11:10 AM
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PnPinNC said: A few more from Raleigh, and we could just charter a plane :-) I like your thinking! I did get a chuckle over how many NC folks posted in this one thread. I spent a few minutes yesterday looking at costs of flights from other areas and we don't have too much to complain about flying from either RDU or CLT.
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: Durathror]
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04/29/2015 11:29 AM
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Durathror said:PnPinNC said: A few more from Raleigh, and we could just charter a plane :-) I like your thinking! I did get a chuckle over how many NC folks posted in this one thread. I spent a few minutes yesterday looking at costs of flights from other areas and we don't have too much to complain about flying from either RDU or CLT. Completely agree... we usually meet up down there with friends from all over the country, and we compare both prices and options. We do pretty good on both counts.
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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04/29/2015 11:53 AM
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Carol_Hill said: As always, people from the Northeast have it much easier than even here in Florida, as far as airfares. I just did a quick check on airfares from Florida for some random dates in July. The cheapest nonstop I could find from Miami was around $650 on one date. July 18 to 25 (a Saturday to Saturday) was $800 for a non stop from Miami. Connections from either Tampa or Orlando were around $750 (except for an OVERNIGHT connection---From FLORIDA?? -- which was around $500 and involved flying north and spending overnight in either Charlotte or Philly on US Air). Jet Blue prices were similar. Back in November I found $300 round trip flights from JAX to SXM for end of this month. That was cheaper than ATL - SXM even though we connect through ATL.
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: BeachRum1962]
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04/29/2015 12:57 PM
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For whatever stupid reason, that seems to be very often the case. It is almost ALWAYS cheaper for me to book Tampa-Miami-SXM on AA than it is to book just Miami-SXM. Or from Orlando, same thing, cheaper to book a connection through Miami, connecting to the exact same plane as the more expensive non stop.
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: zippy]
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04/29/2015 02:53 PM
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I found that if 6 days are entered, no flights available. On United's site 6 is standard unless you update. If you enter 14, for instance, more flights are available. Best from EWR RT - 8/23 (Sun.) $445; 4 different days NYE week - $440.
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Re: Why offseason Airfare so high?
[Re: boucharda]
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05/01/2015 12:38 AM
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boucharda said: I will never forget last year when I was booking a one way return trip (x2) from SXM to BOS on JB. I saw a fare on my laptop and I went upstairs to the desktop (to print) ..logged in and the fare was $150 cheaper (x2 = $300) ...for a one way N/S (same flight)...booked it and went downstairs to my laptop and turned it back on and..duh..the fare was the same as before... $150 higher each
Never could figure that one out... <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" /> I have been told that sometimes pricing like this is due to tracking information the sites have stored on your computer. Next time you are running quotes, run them like you normally do, then' open up a private browsing window (FireFox and Chrome both have that option). Those windows are designed to make you anonymous. Run the airfare quote again, and see if you get different results. If you do, it is likely that tracking information on your past searches may be to blame.
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