That's what my husband said but Gertrude was nowhere in sight. There actually we're a lot of things that have soured me on going back to jvd but won't go into, at least white Bay. I have chalked it up to just realizing that it is just a day spot for people that come and don't care how much they pay for anything like $5 beers no happy hours $15 hamburgers $24 fish tacos and the such I am very happy now at cane Garden Bay thank you very much.