Lol snowdog. That is thinking like a sailor! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" />

Not sure I would have thought of that but just goes to show that it doesn't matter what something is designed to do. Only matters what it can do. (I'm thinking that came from Apollo 13)

I'm pretty sure the 464 Sunsail is an older model version that does not have an electric winch unless someone retrofitted it. The newer models, like the 444, do indeed have the electric winch option, and it does spoil you...a lot.