Carol I absolutely did not mean either yourself or Rural, I myself felt that the true meaning of the post was lost, and that will be it. Many years ago Saint Martin was to us a Caribbean paradise, but as of late the multitude of changes going on have in my opinion dulled the sparkle of the island. If not the cookie cutter buildings on Orient to the over building of condos, "civilization" has taken a foothold. Again Carol no malice meant, <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/dine.gif" alt="" />