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NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks #105344
08/15/2016 09:53 AM
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Curious if the NPT moorings are still present at:
Great Tobago
Brown Pants
Fallen Jerusalem
Aquarium?

Any recent info appreciated

Thanks

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Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: camelot] #105345
08/15/2016 10:42 AM
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9 months of the year in Michig...
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As of the last week or so....
Great Tobago - Yes
Brown Pants - Not sure
Fallen Jerusalem - Yes....2
Aquarium - No


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Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: camelot] #105346
08/15/2016 11:48 AM
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brown pants is a yes

Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: camelot] #105347
08/15/2016 12:25 PM
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What does NPT stand for? National Park mooring? Thx.

Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: UncleLuff] #105348
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national parks trust I think -- the red balls used for day stops. Sometimes are not present as advertised........

Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: camelot] #105349
08/15/2016 01:42 PM
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Red mooring balls are generally marking dive sites.

Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: sail2wind] #105350
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snorkel, dive, visit the beach/baths, lunch stop -- whatever

Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: camelot] #105351
08/15/2016 02:09 PM
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not really, a dive ball has a 90 minute limit. You are not suppose to camp out on dive balls.

Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: sail2wind] #105352
08/15/2016 02:35 PM
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Red balls are often at dive sites, but those are the standard NPT moorings used for day stops by anyone with a permit. 90 minute limit is whether or not one is diving.

Yellow balls are also NPT mooring balls, for commercial boats or diving.


Matt
Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: maytrix] #105353
08/15/2016 03:22 PM
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http://www.bvitourism.com/moorings-anchorages
Info on NPT moorings, including colour coding.


John
Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: bviboater] #105354
08/15/2016 04:32 PM
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Just a point on the color of balls. They change often depending on what is aboard the boat maintaining the balls. If they are replacing a red ball and only have yellow on board it becomes a yellow ball.
The 90 minute limit is correct on all the balls. It's annoying to be waiting for a dive ball and watch the people on the ball eating lunch or sunbathing hours after they pick it up. If someone is waiting I get off the ball ASAP. You can eat lunch drifting or underway. I also make sure the first boat waiting gets my ball when I leave. It amazes me how rude someone can be trying to snake a ball when someone else has been waiting.
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Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: GeorgeC1] #105355
08/15/2016 04:34 PM
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That drives me crazy too George. Common sense is unfortunately uncommon these days..

We may take longer on a ball if there's a lot open, but if it starts to fill up, we'll leave once our 90 minutes is up or if we're done sooner.

I think there are some places where there are exceptions - such as the baths. If you hike the baths and go have lunch or breakfast at the top, you will likely be closer to two hours. I think its fine as long as you don't take an excessive amount. This is why we always visit from Leverick now too.


Matt
Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: maytrix] #105356
08/15/2016 05:37 PM
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I agree with what your saying Matt and do the same thing you do. There is no need to vacate if no one is waiting and the baths is a different situation.
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Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: GeorgeC1] #105357
08/15/2016 06:16 PM
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Agree with George as well. We always try to be courteous to fellow sailors. It can get a little tricky at the Indians, we always try to get there first thing in the morning and give our ball up to the first boat in the queue after 90 minutes of snorkeling bliss. We wait at the ball and signal them in, then head out when they are coming in.
One year we were astounded to get there at around 8:00 AM and all balls were full from overnighters! Amazing. Some were still sleeping. Curtains drawn.
Our Captain just kept cruising through the field and got some folks up on their decks, after several circles and severe stares, and questions like "are you moving out soon?" some moved out and we were able to grab a ball. Some were still there when we left 90 minutes later. They were not even in the water, a few were eating breakfast.
My question for any of you who care to weigh in, is what would you have done, or what you might you do in the future, if you encounter this situation.
Thanks.


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Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: 2forBVI] #105358
08/15/2016 07:28 PM
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I always speak up. Starting a BBQ at the Indians is just not cool. A little tip about getting a mooring ball is to arrive after 3, we always get a ball.

Re: NPT Mooring status for trip in 2 weeks [Re: 2forBVI] #105359
08/15/2016 09:17 PM
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My severe temptation would be to grab the air horn from the lazarette closest to the helm and deploy it without mercy until it died a natural death. Alarm clock with prejudice. Crank up Iron Butterfly Innagadadavita beyond the reach of any earplugs.

My actual response would be to go back into the Bight mooring field and pick up a mooring, perhaps the one we had just released, invite the crew to brew and enjoy another pot of coffee ( make it Irish, Swiss or Bailey's ) and make some finger food lunch, swish their little laundry items and chill.

Discretion is sometimes the only viable course of action to stay out of [censored] territory.


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