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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/24/2018 07:54 PM
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Sean Stacy....Steve~We are chartering a PC 433. We pick up our boat on the 27th. We're planning to stay on dock that night then head to JVD-after that we'll see where the wind blows us. smile Would love to meet up with you guys!!!
We will be on the dock Friday night and pushing off Saturday morning to Cooper. We will look for you Friday. There are 8 of us (4 couples) and will be flying this flag..../Users/steve/Desktop/27500598_10215146188877751_5792803279769037860_o.jpg
"Living Like A Pirate"
Steve & Tiffany
Cruising the local waters here in SC and GA. Love the BVIs and miss the Tradewinds!
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/25/2018 10:35 AM
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That's the first I've heard of that. I know that they were going to require more documentation, but this is the first I've heard that they are going to eliminate it completely. Do you have a link for that??
Carol Hill
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/25/2018 12:18 PM
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Thanks for all the replies folks. I should have mentioned that my doodle is a registered and trained ESA dog that goes everywhere with me. He has traveled with us on multiple vacations by air and car. He's been to Canada, CO, Utah and various parts of Texas. He has spent time on boats at the lake, but residing on a boat will be a first. We have already cleared having him on board with the Moorings and with Foxy's Charters who will bring us to and from from STT. All the paperwork has been filed with the BVI and they are expecting us. I'll be sure to blog next week letting everyone know how we progress. Peace and love...Sean Just curious, trained by whom and registered with whom?
J.D.
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
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07/25/2018 12:43 PM
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The FAA and airlines have modified and are in the process of eliminating the status of an "emotional support animal" flying in a regular cabin. That status may no longer be available. Best to check with the airlines. There are no plans to try and eliminate ESA animals. What they are trying to do is eliminate the fraud in the program. As I posted earlier both of these tests are supposed to be met. 1) Does the person seeking to use and live with the animal have a disability — i.e., a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities? (2) Does the person making the request have a disability-related need for an assistance animal? In other words, does the animal work, provide assistance, perform tasks or services for the benefit of a person with a disability, or provide emotional support that alleviates one or more of the identified symptoms or effects of a person's existing disability? I deal with this at work and often issues arise and we have to sort it out. Usually it involves people with a fear of dogs not wanting to be seated near a ESA. Several times I have mentioned to ESA passengers that we were going to accommodate their disability but might have to move them. Twice I have had the person angrily state they were not disabled! Go figure!
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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07/25/2018 01:08 PM
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George--thanks for the clarification. I knew that the airlines were trying to crack down on fraud, but didn't think there were any plans to eliminate ESA animals flying at all.
Carol Hill
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/25/2018 02:32 PM
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The only other thing I've heard is that JetBlue now limits the type of animals. Dogs, Cats and miniature pony are all the JetBlue allows now. I really have a hard time seeing a miniature pony on a plane though..
Matt
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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07/25/2018 02:42 PM
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George--thanks for the clarification. I knew that the airlines were trying to crack down on fraud, but didn't think there were any plans to eliminate ESA animals flying at all. I fly often, not as often as George, but in the back of the ship with rest of unwashed. For every person that I see with physical or emotional problems that are obvious (keep in mind that everyone you know well have issues they are dealing with about which you have no clue), there are oodles more seeming to be taking advantage of the “free passage” for an inexpensive fee to get a certificate that until recently was an automatic free pass. Indeed until the crackdown you just had to declare why you needed the pet. A while back I was in an aisle seat, the passenger in the middle seat had a emotional support Yorkie and her husband or male traveling companion in the middle seat in front of us had an emotional support poodle as well. The center seat had room under for their carriers, the aisle and window did not. Indeed a cute and friendly dog and a talkative owner who chatted with the lady stranger in window seat throughout the flight . I rarely Initiate conversation on a flight and far prefer reading or using the WiFi when not sleeping. But I did learn that they had a place in Scottsdale as well as their home in St. Louis. ...and it was so easy to get the ESA coat and certificate that anyone could do it and save the animal’s ticket. When she went to the restroom she asked if the lady in window seat would like to hold the dog. She did. When she returned, she told the lady..”you can hold her till we land if you like”, she did. The middle seat occupant then pulled out a book and shudup the rest of the flight. I’ve seen many coming in to the office for heath certificates proudly displaying their new “jackets.” On the other hand I’ve seen a couple severely wounded veterans in wheelchairs with support dogs in their laps waiting to board flights. I am certain there are many that need those dogs that are not so apparent. I understand the human animal bond better than most. It is a huge connectionfor millions of pet owners. Unfortunately there was an economic reason and a waiting “industry” to entice those who just want to save the $ or have their large pet be allowed to ride up front. It got out of hand. Hopefully those in true need won’t lose the right and those that don’t won’t play the system. Keep in mind this is different than seeing eye dogs or bonafide service animals.
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Will_L]
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07/25/2018 03:19 PM
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But I did learn that they had a place in Scottsdale as well as their home in St. Louis. ...and it was so easy to get the ESA coat and certificate that anyone could do it and save the animal’s ticket. BINGO!!! It is unregulated and for $49 you are in business. It is abused like crazy.
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/26/2018 09:17 AM
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I recently read an article talking about the fact that pet owners take fewer trips. Especially out of the country. Even vets agree when the owner is away it is much better for the pet to remain in their own home. Less stress, etc. We love going to the BVI's and have had rescued pets our entire marriage. But we would never bring them with us. We have had single friends stay at our house while gone and have recently use Trusted Housesitters (link below). We have done this 3 times and have had absolutely no issues. Our rescues are our children. There is no way for a multitude of reasons I would take them to the BVI's. https://www.trustedhousesitters.com...cE9ovENMoRoC6UQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Go Irish!!
Bill
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Boatboy]
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07/28/2018 02:30 PM
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Painkiller!!!! Hey Sean what's the name of the 433pc you are on? Have a great trip!
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/28/2018 03:07 PM
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Your original post said " I’m looking for any suggestions or lessons learned for those who have brought dogs with them in the past. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. " So, I'm kind of thinking you DID ask for all comments. Regardless, glad it's going well so far..
Carol Hill
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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07/31/2018 11:30 PM
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Glad to see everyone, including Barley, limin' Say hi to Mrs. Sean for me Can't wait to get the full trip report. You're now an official TTOL insider.
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Re: Dogs on bare boat trip
[Re: Sean Stacey]
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08/03/2018 05:22 PM
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I think there's potential for a number of issues. And unless you really need your dog, such as a service dog, I don't think it is worth the various potential risks. While I know our dog would have fun, our dog will ultimately be fine at home and safe. I've read of issues with paperwork being incorrect, missing or some other issue and that causing a variety of issues. I just think it isn't worth the risk for a vacation. A service dog is a completely different situation and I imagine treated differently - and certainly from the sounds of it, welcomed, where I think a regular dog might not be as welcome.
Elsewhere is a whole other story since there are even more requirements. I've ready plenty on traveling with dogs to various islands and some are easy, some are not so easy. None seem worth the hassle for a vacation. Living aboard is again another story.
Matt
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