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No Short-Term Solution for the Dump #169674
09/13/2018 05:41 AM
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Re: No Short-Term SOlution for the Dump [Re: ruralcarrier] #169675
09/13/2018 06:43 AM
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No long term one either.


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Re: No Short-Term SOlution for the Dump [Re: ruralcarrier] #169696
09/13/2018 12:33 PM
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Just curious........how does Bermuda handle it's waste??? Last time there I saw no evidence of a landfill or burning.

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Re: No Short-Term SOlution for the Dump [Re: ruralcarrier] #169698
09/13/2018 01:12 PM
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Right on, Elaine!

Re: No Short-Term SOlution for the Dump [Re: SXMBND] #169699
09/13/2018 01:22 PM
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30 years ago, Bermuda built a waste treatment plant using incineration - the waste to energy type plan. Bermuda struggles now to deal with current waste, but there really is no comparison to how Bermuda has handled problem and the way Sint Maarten has. Sint Maarten has a horrific open dump approach - which is as bad as places with far less resources. It would seem blatantly obvious that the solution has to include incineration and a strictly regulated recycling and waste handling plan, as Bermuda and other places have done. The inaction of a generation of politicians in Sint Maarten is utterly disgraceful. Given how some island politicians seem to think Sint Maarten should and could be more independent, the reality is that the Hague is going to have to lead and compel a waste management solution if Sint Maarten is to survive as a tourist detination.

Re: No Short-Term SOlution for the Dump [Re: Snorkeller] #169711
09/13/2018 05:01 PM
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As the old saying goes...…….You can't fix stupid!!

Re: No Short-Term SOlution for the Dump [Re: ruralcarrier] #169716
09/13/2018 06:38 PM
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There are some recycling sites with more coming. It's a start.
http://greensxm.com/saint-martin-sint-maarten-recycling-locations/

Re: No Short-Term SOlution for the Dump [Re: ruralcarrier] #169751
09/14/2018 03:51 PM
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I saw a special once where they solved the garbage issue by hydraulically compressing it into blocks about 2' X 2' then coating with a sealing compound (looked like tar but may be something else environmentally friendly. The finished blocks were hard as concrete. They then took the blocks and used for road construction base. They solved the garbage issue and improved the quality of roadways. I think it was in Japan but could have been another island. The blocks could probably be useful for other public works projects or sold off island for projects.

Re: No Short-Term SOlution for the Dump [Re: ruralcarrier] #169758
09/14/2018 10:48 PM
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There are some easy things that they can do to at least get started. One would be to keep tires out of the general waste, and ship them off-island for recycling. Burning tires are smoky, and difficult to put out. Collect them separately, and barge them off-island.

Re: No Short-Term SOlution for the Dump [Re: ruralcarrier] #169766
09/15/2018 10:47 AM
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Re: No Short-Term SOlution for the Dump [Re: ruralcarrier] #169767
09/15/2018 11:45 AM
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In BGI many years ago, I was told they grind up glass bottles and use it for road construction. They need to implement recycling. I asked at SBYC back in 98 what to do with the recycled materials, paper, metal, glass etc. I got laughed at.

Re: No Short-Term SOlution for the Dump [Re: Snorkeller] #169792
09/16/2018 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Snorkeller
30 years ago, Bermuda built a waste treatment plant using incineration - the waste to energy type plan. Bermuda struggles now to deal with current waste, but there really is no comparison to how Bermuda has handled problem and the way Sint Maarten has. Sint Maarten has a horrific open dump approach - which is as bad as places with far less resources. It would seem blatantly obvious that the solution has to include incineration and a strictly regulated recycling and waste handling plan, as Bermuda and other places have done. The inaction of a generation of politicians in Sint Maarten is utterly disgraceful. Given how some island politicians seem to think Sint Maarten should and could be more independent, the reality is that the Hague is going to have to lead and compel a waste management solution if Sint Maarten is to survive as a tourist detination.


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