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Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? #184229
02/15/2019 11:45 AM
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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184230
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Looks like someone forgot to grease the right palms...

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: GaKaye] #184231
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Originally Posted by GaKaye
Looks like someone forgot to grease the right palms...

Possibly not enough grease or maybe none at all.


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184232
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Oh my. How could someone invest is such a venture without the proper permits is beyond comprehension. Almost done and now it's brought up. duh

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: SXMScubaman] #184233
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Originally Posted by SXMScubaman
Oh my. How could someone invest is such a venture without the proper permits is beyond comprehension. Almost done and now it's brought up. duh

Probably just like many of the shacks on Kim Sha and operations at other beaches. Sometimes you get caught and sometimes you can operate a long time. You keep going until you are forced to stop and and then you either deal with it or you walk away. Although, as big as this project was, it would be surprising no permits at all were applied for. But, then again, it is St. Maarten.


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184234
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Still inconceivable someone could proceed that far, spending the money and now being discovered without permits.

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: SXMScubaman] #184235
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Perhaps they were not spending their own money but that of unsuspecting investors, if this is actually factual.


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184236
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Could be. I'm sure there is more to this than that short article.

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: SXMScubaman] #184237
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It's done every day here. SOP


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184238
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This is not unusual... On average 130 stop and removal orders are given per year. The permits issued bring in a revenue of 2,000,000 NAF per year. It is very political. The Nature Foundation protects the beaches but also receives money from the Gov. There are always exemptions unless it is being targeted for other reasons.

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184241
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I'm surprised nothing has been reported in the Herald about this yet. This was an area that Lee's looked into and was denied.

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184242
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OK, that's bizarre, as much money as was supposedly going into that thing? And there was a story in the Daily Herald about the project in something like May of last year. If they didn't have a permit, why did Nature Foundation, or the government, for that matter, let the thing get this far along?? Handshake deal with a politician no longer in favor??


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: Carol_Hill] #184244
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https://www.thedailyherald.sx/islan...-to-bring-french-savoir-faire-to-kim-sha

Something is not adding up... This project was made well known and anyone driving through Simpson Bay saw the construction.

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: sxmmartini] #184245
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Right. That's what I said. I was told at one point that land belonged to a sitting Member of Parliament, so that would kind of make sense, the way things happen on SXM. But then I also heard that was NOT true, so things that you 'hear' are often not what they seem! crazy


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: Carol_Hill] #184247
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The architect is no stranger to high end projects and I would think would have been involved in the permit process.
This is an enviromental issue which needs additional permits when it effects the surrounding area. I read the article but I think there needs to be a fact check here. I will bet there was a permit but it could have been revoked for some reason.

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: sxmmartini] #184248
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OK, that could well be. Will be interesting to see if there is another story coming out in a day or two.


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184255
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Grand Opening was February 17th...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BtEYcrfHwMG/

The building permit was for one floor and it seems a VIP lounge was added making it two stories.
Just my guess untill further info comes to light.

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: sxmmartini] #184257
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Grand opening was SUPPOSED to be February 17, you mean. That makes a bit more sense, if they exceeded the building permit, and that's what the issue is.


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184261
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This is being blown out of proportion .

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: Kennys] #184264
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Originally Posted by Kennys
This is being blown out of proportion .

What is? Explain if you want to.

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184270
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It has been confirmed from the Department that there were no permits in place to construct on the beach and the company has been issued a stop and removal order.


Sounds a tad serious to me:

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184321
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They are building away this morning. Lots of workers, pouring concrete.... Typical.


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184327
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Not unusual!


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184332
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Maybe news article was "Fake" news. : laugh

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: Kennys] #184344
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I hope so. We met several employees who are living on island and invited us to stop by when open.

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: SXMScubaman] #184346
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Our Nature Foundation does not publish fake news.


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184348
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For something that has been going on for a year how could the Nature Foundation just discovered this as reported.
"Last week we were alerted that there was possible illegal construction happening at the area of Simpson Bay Beach popularly known as Kim Sha at the location of the construction site of Roxxy Beach Bar", says the St Maarten Nature Foundation
Key word is "possible" illegal construction.

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: SXMScubaman] #184350
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And VROMI agreed and shut them down. It''s VROMI's job to police these things, not Nature Foundation. which obviously they don't do.


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: NeilRooney] #184353
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Originally Posted by NeilRooney
Not unusual!

pirate handshake cheers

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184366
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This was posted on facebook by Roxxy beach.
"ROXXY BEACH has a valid building permit for its development.

In recent media posts the impression was created that it did not. This is not correct and ROXXY BEACH continues to finalize its restaurant and beach bar



An issue came up with a small semi-permanent structure in front of the building that would have been used as a service station.

Like other places where pop up service stations are built; Karakter, Mary’s Boon and the entire strip of bars on the parking lot next door, ROXXY BEACH was informed that such was allowed. Once informed that such was not the case, ROXXY BEACH, stopped said endeavors.



ROXXY BEACH is built on various principles. One of them being environmental conscious. It collected over 1000 beer bottles and soda cans out of the sand in front of the property at a depth at 5 feet using a special built sand filtering system. It used special non-corrosive sheet pilings to avoid any rust entering the sand and the environment and it spend considerable amounts for the restoration and replanting of (palm)trees on and in front of its property.

ROXXY BEACH aims to be as CO2 neutral as possible and uses the best energy saving options available.



ROXXY BEACH will be open in March 2019 for its Guests”

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: SXMScubaman] #184372
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Gotta like social media to find the scoop on what is up! Thanks for posting.... Looking forward to visiting Roxxy Beach in March.

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Th I was poste on facbook by Roxxy beach.


Huh?

What you copied and pasted may be 100% accurate but since it was posted by Roxxy Beach, one would not expect them to say much else.


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184377
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Always two sides my friend, two sides. I just posted what Roxxy posted. So don't shoot the messenger.

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Reality speaks for itself.

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: SXMScubaman] #184381
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And auto correct was responsible for the typos? I see you learned how to edit.

Usually at least 3 sides or more to every scenario.


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Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184390
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"And auto correct was responsible for the typos? I see you learned how to edit."
Yep. Leave it to you to bring out the best in someone.

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: ruralcarrier] #184392
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I really doubt that Roxy would post up such verifiable information unless it were true. With the SXM governments track record I'm believing the developer......... not that it matters.

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Hey Ruralcarrier and SXMSCubaman,
What are you 4? I don’t know what you issue is....or care, but really? Reading you two is like sitting in a first grade class. It’s painful. And please don’t start with the “he started it”. You both have something of interest to say...on occasion...so please be adults. Thank you


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Thank you. I'll heed your advice as I'd rather not have to defend myself from a moderator on trivial matters.

Re: Kim Sha Beach Illegal Construction Roxxy Beach? [Re: SXMBND] #184417
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Originally Posted by SXMBND
I really doubt that Roxy would post up such verifiable information unless it were true. With the SXM governments track record I'm believing the developer......... not that it matters.

I agree! It is their Facebook page and not someone commenting. I think the news was fake and they could have investigated it further before misleading people about Roxxy Beach Bar.

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