Traveltalkonline.com Forums


BVI Cruise Schedule TTOL Sponsors BVI Travel Calendar
Forum Statistics
Forums39
Topics30,902
Posts234,670
Members25,489
Most Online2,218
Jan 21st, 2020
Top Posters(30 Days)
Fred 79
Zanshin 74
Kennys 57
pat 57
Fran 49
Member Spotlight
DDnBob
DDnBob
Michigan
Posts: 571
Joined: July 2003
Show All Member Profiles 
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
Who's Online Now
34 registered members (Sea_Skyman, bc007, WLE, Fran, GeorgeC1, connie, Jeannius, timnboston, Kennys, deliveryskipper, EscapingCold, nevar37, George1234, wendyk, cacapasa, nakedisbetter, sugarae, CaptainJay, sail445, boucharda, dvesc, Eva, bugambilias, bailau, Mikel, 9 invisible), 203 guests, and 420 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Feeding the Captains... #200992
07/25/2019 02:12 PM
07/25/2019 02:12 PM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 306
Lodi, California
shiloh8912 Offline OP
Traveler
shiloh8912  Offline OP
Traveler
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 306
Lodi, California
I recently posted a question on Facebook on one of the BVI pages and was subsequently keel hauled by the respondents to the point where I removed the post.

I had seen a post by the B-Line Bar on LJVD that said a Captain eats for free with 5 or more meals purchased, being that there will be 6 of us sailing this October-November with a captain I simply asked if anyone knew of any other places in the BVI that offered such a promotion. Jeeez, you'd think I was Scrooge per the reactions I received. "If I had to ask then I shouldn't be visiting the BVI" "If you can't afford it don't come" "Do you feel good about taking money from the hard working people of the BVI..." Ouch!

If I was overstepping my boundaries my bad, I was just curious if there were any other restaurants that did such a thing. I was told in no uncertain terms (by the posters on Hatebook not by the B-Line Beach Bar) that the offer was meant for the captains only to bring their boats and guests and NOT for the guests to be using it to save some $$$.

Any thoughts?


"We lost our corkscrew and were compelled to live on food and water for several days.
~W.C. Fields"
BVI Sponsors
Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #200994
07/25/2019 02:16 PM
07/25/2019 02:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 950
road town
sleepychef Offline
Traveler
sleepychef  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 950
road town
The advert is meant for Charter Captains that visit weekly with different guests, not bareboaters.

Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #200997
07/25/2019 02:22 PM
07/25/2019 02:22 PM
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,391
Maryland
Kirk Offline
Traveler
Kirk  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,391
Maryland
Never knew it was limited...been told captain eats free numerous times when given a menu while tying up to and on a mooring ball over the years. We've never cashed in on it though. I did always think that if a restaurant owned the ball, they should wave the fee if you eat dinner there. Seems like smart business...getting bodies in...


Kirk in Maryland
Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #200998
07/25/2019 02:24 PM
07/25/2019 02:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 2,151
Cane Garden Bay, Tortola
JasonHelmbrecht Offline
Traveler
JasonHelmbrecht  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 2,151
Cane Garden Bay, Tortola
It's absolutely mean for hired charter captains. I think I may have answered on Facebook, but I know Banana's in Cane makes the same offer. Paid captain bringing 5 or more guests gets a free meal. Incidentally, they make the same offer for taxi drivers.

Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #200999
07/25/2019 02:26 PM
07/25/2019 02:26 PM
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,170
Toledo, OH, USA
Orange_Burst Offline
Traveler
Orange_Burst  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,170
Toledo, OH, USA
It sounds like you are hiring a captain, if that is the case, yes, there are other places that have that same offer. We always bareboat, but I know I have seen signs, menu's, etc that indicate the captain eats free. Now if I could only remember which restaurants...LOL

I would think your hired captain would know which ones.

One I know, Harris's in Little Harbor, JVD


Colleen


[Linked Image]


Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: Kirk] #201003
07/25/2019 03:09 PM
07/25/2019 03:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 950
road town
sleepychef Offline
Traveler
sleepychef  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 950
road town
Originally Posted by Kirk
Never knew it was limited...been told captain eats free numerous times when given a menu while tying up to and on a mooring ball over the years. We've never cashed in on it though. I did always think that if a restaurant owned the ball, they should wave the fee if you eat dinner there. Seems like smart business...getting bodies in...


Sounds okay for 1 boat but 20 boats and you are losing $600 a night thats $120,000.00 over the season, but for special days like Xmas New Years when special menus are on then it will be okay.


Last edited by sleepychef; 07/25/2019 03:10 PM.
Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: sleepychef] #201005
07/25/2019 03:15 PM
07/25/2019 03:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,391
Maryland
Kirk Offline
Traveler
Kirk  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,391
Maryland
Originally Posted by sleepychef
Originally Posted by Kirk
Never knew it was limited...been told captain eats free numerous times when given a menu while tying up to and on a mooring ball over the years. We've never cashed in on it though. I did always think that if a restaurant owned the ball, they should wave the fee if you eat dinner there. Seems like smart business...getting bodies in...


Sounds okay for 1 boat but 20 boats and you are losing $600 a night thats $120,000.00 over the season, but for special days like Xmas New Years when special menus are on then it will be okay.


...if you assume those 20 boats were already going to eat at your restaurant. What if only 5 of those boats were going to eat at your joint, but now 10 do? I'd think we're spending a tad more than $30 a person at dinner.


Kirk in Maryland
Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #201018
07/25/2019 04:22 PM
07/25/2019 04:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 700
Georgia & South Carolina
D
Deepcut Offline
Traveler
Deepcut  Offline
Traveler
D
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 700
Georgia & South Carolina
Originally Posted by shiloh8912
Captain eats for free with 5 or more meals purchased,


On my very first visit to BVI, the one place i HAD to go was Sidney's Peace & Love as I had seen my cousin's 35mm slides of this place.

I anchored in Little Harbor and dinged in to shore. Met by none other than Sidney who welcomed me, inviting me to eat at his place and loudly pointed out to me "Captain eats free". Now it was very obvious I was not a "hired captain".

Obviously this policy is up to each establishment as to whether they offer "free" (in exchange for 5-8 paid meals, plus alcohol).

I have seen free mooring with dinner vs free drink with mooring ball vs other promotions. (Cooper Island Beach Club has it posted for free rum drink with mooring ball receipt).

Small reward for bringing in larger groups. If a business offers it, graciously accept. If they decline to offer it/ or offer has stipulations that do not apply to you, then enjoy at your choice.


Wes
s/v Sea Tiger (Lagoon 42)
Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #201019
07/25/2019 04:23 PM
07/25/2019 04:23 PM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 900
Memphis, BVI, CT
R
RatmansWife Offline
Traveler
RatmansWife  Offline
Traveler
R
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 900
Memphis, BVI, CT
Shiloh, I saw that exchange on Facebook, and thought the responses were rude and pretty harsh. If a business decides to offer a promotion to draw in customers, it’s either worth it or it’s not. Not sure why it matters if the captain is paid or not. It’s either worth it to attract more customers, or you don’t care if they go elsewhere.

Some places in the BVI seem to feel they are “owed” your patronage, rather than they need to earn it. Or that competition is a bad thing. Kind of hard to understand.

Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #201021
07/25/2019 04:31 PM
07/25/2019 04:31 PM
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 24
B
Brian21097 Offline
Traveler
Brian21097  Offline
Traveler
B
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 24
What was the BVI facebook group called BTW?

Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: Kirk] #201030
07/25/2019 06:35 PM
07/25/2019 06:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 950
road town
sleepychef Offline
Traveler
sleepychef  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 950
road town
Originally Posted by Kirk
Originally Posted by sleepychef
Originally Posted by Kirk
Never knew it was limited...been told captain eats free numerous times when given a menu while tying up to and on a mooring ball over the years. We've never cashed in on it though. I did always think that if a restaurant owned the ball, they should wave the fee if you eat dinner there. Seems like smart business...getting bodies in...


Sounds okay for 1 boat but 20 boats and you are losing $600 a night thats $120,000.00 over the season, but for special days like Xmas New Years when special menus are on then it will be okay.


...if you assume those 20 boats were already going to eat at your restaurant. What if only 5 of those boats were going to eat at your joint, but now 10 do? I'd think we're spending a tad more than $30 a person at dinner.


The money you want to save on pays for Live Bands and Entertainment as I can only speak to my place, and out of 20 balls in season probably 15 will be coming in nightly, I do intend to make them included in NYE and Xmas Day menus when they are most needed. We also take care of of charter captains and crew very well. Even a few TTOL members who have become friends. Perhaps a free mooring with dinner for TTOL members, what do you think Carol?

Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: sleepychef] #201034
07/25/2019 07:15 PM
07/25/2019 07:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 700
Georgia & South Carolina
D
Deepcut Offline
Traveler
Deepcut  Offline
Traveler
D
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 700
Georgia & South Carolina

[/quote]
Perhaps a free mooring with dinner for TTOL members, what do you think Carol?[/quote]


How do you poll the TTOL audience?

Yeah or Nay?

Peter, If I were one of your competitors, who seem to have only a fraction of customers that you have, I would definitely give a free ball and/or "captain eat free" to a large Cat booking a dinner for 6-8 people.


Wes
s/v Sea Tiger (Lagoon 42)
Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #201054
07/25/2019 11:08 PM
07/25/2019 11:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,206
Somewhere out there
kneafseym Offline
Traveler
kneafseym  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,206
Somewhere out there
When I was running charters in BVI, initially I ate/drank free almost everywhere. That changed as the number of professional crew increased, I started in 1989. Sidney's was always a free meal for me and any captain, even bareboat. Some places quietly asked me if the guests were paying or if I was buying my meal. When guests were paying they paid for my meal. When I was buying my own, the invoice was zero and we went through the credit card motion. Most guests buy the professional captain dinner so the Captain eats free isn't applied very often. I was always a cheap date and never ordered Lobster or other high priced options, but have see other Captains do so.


Mike
Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #201064
07/26/2019 07:02 AM
07/26/2019 07:02 AM
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,170
Toledo, OH, USA
Orange_Burst Offline
Traveler
Orange_Burst  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,170
Toledo, OH, USA
Harris's still offers either a free mooring ball or a free round of bushwhackers if you stay on her ball and come in for dinner.


Colleen


[Linked Image]


Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #201091
07/26/2019 09:44 AM
07/26/2019 09:44 AM
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 348
Pittsburgh, PA
S
Schwendy Offline
Traveler
Schwendy  Offline
Traveler
S
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 348
Pittsburgh, PA
So, similar topic, is the Drinking Man's Guide dead? Haven't seen any new issues since before Irma. Does anyone still use the old copied if they still have places they haven't been?



[Linked Image]
Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #201097
07/26/2019 09:55 AM
07/26/2019 09:55 AM
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 8
I
islandbouy Offline
Traveler
islandbouy  Offline
Traveler
I
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 8
We went to Quitos in May. We had 6 people for dinner.

The restaurant comped my meal because i was the captain.(not hired professional)

I didn't know this, The waitress said she had a nice surprise for me when she handed me my check

She said it was policy for the captain to dine for free.

Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: Schwendy] #201103
07/26/2019 10:56 AM
07/26/2019 10:56 AM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 950
road town
sleepychef Offline
Traveler
sleepychef  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 950
road town
Originally Posted by Schwendy
So, similar topic, is the Drinking Man's Guide dead? Haven't seen any new issues since before Irma. Does anyone still use the old copied if they still have places they haven't been?


Julians son is doing a new version

Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: islandbouy] #201105
07/26/2019 11:27 AM
07/26/2019 11:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 700
Georgia & South Carolina
D
Deepcut Offline
Traveler
Deepcut  Offline
Traveler
D
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 700
Georgia & South Carolina
Originally Posted by islandbouy
We went to Quitos in May. We had 6 people for dinner.


She said it was policy for the captain to dine for free.


Certainly a great way to get repeat business.


Wes
s/v Sea Tiger (Lagoon 42)
Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #201828
08/06/2019 01:10 PM
08/06/2019 01:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 25
CaveMan Offline
Traveler
CaveMan  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 25
I received a free lobster dinner at Sidney's Peace & Love two weeks ago. We had a party of four.

I am not and have never been a hired professional Captain.

Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: Schwendy] #201983
08/08/2019 01:04 PM
08/08/2019 01:04 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 31
Arlington, VA
SchmidJA Offline
Traveler
SchmidJA  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 31
Arlington, VA
Just got back from a week bare boating. Before we left, my friend reminded me of the Drinking Man's Guide and I threw my copy in my bag (purchased in 2009). I actually brought it out a few times during our cruise and the reactions were priceless. I only had a few unused slots remaining, one of them at Foxy's for a born here ale... the bartender laughed, explained how Irma destroyed their brew kit/station and then gave me a different bottled beer (which I paid for :-)). In Anegada, we ate at Neptune's Treasure and they laughed but honored the free bottle of wine. Bottom line, it was more of a laugh and story for us (and the bar tenders) BUT they are generally accepting them... just be ready from some confused looks and a little shock that you managed to keep the book dry and in once piece after sailing with it multiple times. Also, there is no expiration (as my friend pointed out).

Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: SchmidJA] #201996
08/08/2019 02:45 PM
08/08/2019 02:45 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 957
Gulf Shores AL
lindakay Offline
Traveler
lindakay  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 957
Gulf Shores AL
Originally Posted by SchmidJA
Just got back from a week bare boating. Before we left, my friend reminded me of the Drinking Man's Guide and I threw my copy in my bag (purchased in 2009). I actually brought it out a few times during our cruise and the reactions were priceless. I only had a few unused slots remaining, one of them at Foxy's for a born here ale... the bartender laughed, explained how Irma destroyed their brew kit/station and then gave me a different bottled beer (which I paid for :-)). In Anegada, we ate at Neptune's Treasure and they laughed but honored the free bottle of wine. Bottom line, it was more of a laugh and story for us (and the bar tenders) BUT they are generally accepting them... just be ready from some confused looks and a little shock that you managed to keep the book dry and in once piece after sailing with it multiple times. Also, there is no expiration (as my friend pointed out).


That's so cool! I still have mine from 2002!

Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #202014
08/08/2019 06:15 PM
08/08/2019 06:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,126
Ontario, Canada
warren460 Offline
Traveler
warren460  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 2,126
Ontario, Canada
We have a 2014 book. No issues or laughter when we used it last month.

We had no issues using it at foxys.

Last edited by warren460; 08/08/2019 06:16 PM.

Warren S/V Scuba Doo
Lagoon 50 (winner of best crewed yacht under 55 feet at the St. Thomas crewed yacht boat show) and Lagoon 450, (both part of the Charter Caribe fleet (all inclusive charters) -St Thomas USVI https://chartercaribe.com/charters/ ).
Re: Feeding the Captains... [Re: shiloh8912] #202189
08/11/2019 11:26 AM
08/11/2019 11:26 AM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 306
Lodi, California
shiloh8912 Offline OP
Traveler
shiloh8912  Offline OP
Traveler
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 306
Lodi, California
Sorry, I guess I wasn’t clear when I originally posted. We do have a hired captain that will sail the 6 of us around. I totally understand that any discount wouldn’t apply to a bareboat charter where one individual just happens to be the “captain”. I was just curious about locations that comped a meal to the “hired captains” We’ll just use his recommendations when we come down in October/November.


"We lost our corkscrew and were compelled to live on food and water for several days.
~W.C. Fields"

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1