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Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt #214920
01/20/2020 05:04 PM
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From the NY Times:

Caneel Bay: Why a Caribbean Paradise Remains in Ruins
Two years after back-to-back hurricanes struck St. John, the famed Caneel Bay Resort has not reopened. The storms’ lingering aftermath laid bare the eco-resort’s long-festering problems.


Link to full article: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/20/travel/st-john-caneel-bay-resort.html

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Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: DanS] #214958
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Originally Posted by DanS
From the NY Times:

Caneel Bay: Why a Caribbean Paradise Remains in Ruins
Two years after back-to-back hurricanes struck St. John, the famed Caneel Bay Resort has not reopened. The storms’ lingering aftermath laid bare the eco-resort’s long-festering problems.


Link to full article: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/20/travel/st-john-caneel-bay-resort.html

Dan cheers


Do you have another source besides the Useless NY Times?
The NYT is as useless as CNN and desperate for readership.


Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: sail445] #214962
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sail--To be clear, the point is that they require registration to read. Their stories are not useless.


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Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: DanS] #214969
01/20/2020 09:30 PM
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Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: BaardJ] #214973
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Same deal. You need to register with NY Times..


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Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: DanS] #215017
01/21/2020 12:16 PM
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I was able to click and read the article.

Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: LocalSailor] #215035
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It's based on cookies on your computer or something, as I am never able to read NYT stories..


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Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: DanS] #215037
01/21/2020 02:22 PM
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Me Too - I just clicked and it appeared... of course with a punch of pop ups but no problem reading it.


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Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: sail445] #215132
01/22/2020 11:01 AM
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The NY times currently has 5,000,000 subscribers and doubled its digital subscriptions in the last four years. It's sustained record subscriber growth from 2016 on. It's not desperate for readers.The news concerning Caneel Bay has has also been covered by the News of St. John blog.

Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: betorah] #215138
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It probably doubled it’s subscriptions by using the same technique they’re using for the Caneel Bay article which is either you subscribe or you can’t read it. It’s a form of blackmail.

Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: sail445] #215178
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It's not a form of blackmail. Newspapers can't survive if everyone reads them on the Internet for free. Digital, rather than paper subscriptions are not just the wave of the future, but the wave of the present.

Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: betorah] #215179
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Originally Posted by betorah
It's not a form of blackmail. Newspapers can't survive if everyone reads them on the Internet for free. Digital, rather than paper subscriptions are not just the wave of the future, but the wave of the present.

Hello the internet has been for close to 18 years been affecting news outlets around the world. The NYT has been going downhill from regular subscriptions and on the internet, the only way they can boost their ratings is with the system they’re using now by having the public sign up with a (temporary) subscription so as to falsify ther ratings.

Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: DanS] #215181
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The NYT allows a certain number of free articles per month. Try clearing your cookies and you should be able to read the article.

Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: NCSailor] #215186
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How many millions of free articles do they permit?

Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: betorah] #215187
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Originally Posted by betorah
It's not a form of blackmail. Newspapers can't survive if everyone reads them on the Internet for free. Digital, rather than paper subscriptions are not just the wave of the future, but the wave of the present.


Exactly. I miss the days of going out to get the Sunday papers in my shorts and then jumping back into bed for several hours of coffee and reading. At some point 10 plus years ago the papers became skinny on news and larger on ad. What they printed I had already read on the internet.

I delivered papers as a kid. Mondays were thin, Wednesdays had circulars and the Sunday paper was 5".

The NYT whether you agree with their politics is still delivering great content and protecting the 1st amendment.

Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: NCSailor] #215190
01/22/2020 07:45 PM
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NYT’s politics and articles are whether you agree or not is over the edge Left wing and like CNN are going down hill.
How about getting back to the subject “Caneel Bay”

Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: sail445] #215191
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Originally Posted by sail445
NYT’s politics and articles are whether you agree or not is over the edge Left wing and like CNN are going down hill.
How about getting back to the subject “Caneel Bay”


All of your posts were political and not one about Caneel Bay. Drinking much these days?

Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: NCSailor] #215197
01/22/2020 08:12 PM
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Take a look at your posts before you criticize and then finish your bottle.

Re: Why Caneel Bay has not been rebuilt [Re: sail445] #215198
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Yikes, ok, for whatever reason, this thread has gone totally political and thus is done.


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