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New Structure next to Karacter #218587
02/24/2020 09:01 AM
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Anyone know anything about the new structure next to Karacter? Looks like another beach bar. Wondering about room for parking? Also, as of today, seaweed is mounting on Simpson Beach! Ugh!

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Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218588
02/24/2020 09:13 AM
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Karakter VIP lounge


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God Bless the broken road....
Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: BillandElaine] #218590
02/24/2020 09:44 AM
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Good that they are getting ready for the November gang arrival


I prefer the Isle seat
Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218591
02/24/2020 09:56 AM
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Totally ridiculous how the gov lets a business build without concern for enough parking, safety , health concerns. I wonder if a permit was even given? Can't image someone in gov can't see the obvious problems there. They don't even have enough parking or bathrooms for the business they have so it just gonna be a bigger nightmare. I have seen people get in fights and cars get dented because of crowding and towed over parking. I stopped going to Karacter a long time ago. Same issue at the other end of the beach at El Zippo. Just a money grab and no concern for anyone.

Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: foreversxm] #218593
02/24/2020 09:58 AM
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I'm told all permits in place. We have not been in several years.


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Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: foreversxm] #218594
02/24/2020 10:10 AM
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El Zippo?? laugh I assume that is a typo? I would love to go to one of the Friday night concerts again at Karakter, but we don't because of parking concerns.


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Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: BillandElaine] #218596
02/24/2020 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BillandElaine
I'm told all permits in place. We have not been in several years.

Didn't they start another structure several years ago and had to remove it due to either lack of permits or something to do with the Nature Foundation?


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Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218597
02/24/2020 10:29 AM
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I am pretty certain they would only build with legitimate permits in place. I remember when Jorritt had to tear out a deck extension because he hadn’t pulled the appropriate permits and had infringed on the beach beyond the high water point.


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Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: ruralcarrier] #218599
02/24/2020 10:36 AM
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Yes, and had to tear it down.


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Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218600
02/24/2020 10:41 AM
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We were there that day and it wasn’t pretty.


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Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218601
02/24/2020 10:43 AM
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Where this is being built was a foundation to a building that I think was destroyed in 1995! Before you get to the bathrooms I think.

Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218604
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It was a small foundation for a house that’s been greatly expanded now, not another commercial building that requires a lot more parking that a single family home. That’s the point. Just another SXM pay to play. Just ridiculous the lack of thought or concern.

Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218611
02/24/2020 11:46 AM
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Nobody goes there anymore because it is too crowded.


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Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: Todd] #218654
02/24/2020 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd
Nobody goes there anymore because it is too crowded.


Ah! Remember when it first opened and was so serene. Haven't been since heard how bad parking has become.

Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218662
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I have never had an issue parking. But I don’t go in Sunday’s

Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: Todd] #218665
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😊 Yogi Berra .

Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218675
02/25/2020 04:14 AM
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What I don't get, is that they had them tear down there other structure only to let them build this another thing that IMHO will end up half way out in Simpson bay beach and will be another dangerous eye sore!!!! If any of my fellow TTOL'ers remember LaPlaya's free standing bar and observation dinning deck??? Irma took her somewhere, that no one knows where that landed. That was built with pure concrete too!!


Sand Gravity, got to love it!
Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: Todd] #218766
02/25/2020 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd
Nobody goes there anymore because it is too crowded.


Sorry, Todd, I still go there on weekdays and don't experience parking issues.


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Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: jazzgal] #218768
02/25/2020 08:23 PM
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We tend to get to the beach early so I also have not had parking issues, and for no particular reason we did not go to Karakter last year.


I prefer the Isle seat
Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218769
02/25/2020 08:59 PM
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We were fans of this place from its earliest days but the Last time we went we were turned off by the closeness of the chair set-ups coupled with the volume level of the music. This was a few years ago and hopefully it’s gotten better but if not, oh well..........


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Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218770
02/25/2020 09:26 PM
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IMO its become a total jungle. From the road that is next to impossible and dangerous to get down on a busy day to the over crowding of the chairs and music way to loud. The night time crowd has really become a bunch of undesirables. We went there in Jan and left after an hour. The quickest way to go out of business to me is to not listening to your customers the lack of safe parking without hassle getting there has become to much to even bother going. Cant even image why they would want to add to that parking mess and over crowding by building more.

Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: foreversxm] #218804
02/26/2020 10:27 AM
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Agree with the jungle, parking, too close chairs. We went last year to sit and eat up near the bus, but did not stay for chairs or anything.

Mary's Boon or El Zafiro is a nicer option and way to spend the day IMO.


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Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218807
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We were there only one time and a long time ago.

Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pat] #218860
02/26/2020 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pat
We were fans of this place from its earliest days but the Last time we went we were turned off by the closeness of the chair set-ups coupled with the volume level of the music. This was a few years ago and hopefully it’s gotten better but if not, oh well..........


Hey Pat, you'll be pleased to know that when we were there (several times during the first 2 weeks of December) the chairs were NOT crowded (unlike what El Zafiro has become). Plus, the new chairs are much more comfortable than the old ones ever were. And the music, while not as good as Jorritt's playlist, brought back those fond memories. We had also stopped going to Karakter a few years ago because the music was just not to our taste and way too loud.

Never a parking issue for us (but we arrive by 10ish). I'm sure that by January that could easily change, but for the "November folk" like you, it should be fine.


LeAnn


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Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: PrairieGirl] #218890
02/26/2020 08:33 PM
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Le Ann, that's good to hear! We haven't been to Karakter for a few years because the chairs were so close together, and the food wasn't as good as it was during Jorrit's tenure. We'll have to give it a try this year.

Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218892
02/26/2020 08:40 PM
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LeAnn,

Good to know and I thank you for the heads up.

We’ll be on island mid April and will maybe give it another go. We never had parking issues because like you, we are usually early birds To the beach, and we learned a long time ago when there’s any possibility of parking issues, back into your parking spot if possible so you can drive out, usually w/o any issues.


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pat



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Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: pburke40] #218944
02/27/2020 09:39 AM
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Last year we had the same issues as several posts here but, this year the first part of our trip we are staying at Mary's Boon so, there
is no need to go to another beach bar on the same beach as the "Boon".

Re: New Structure next to Karacter [Re: bonsie] #218945
02/27/2020 09:49 AM
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If I were staying at Mary's Boon, might not need to go to the BEACH, but I sure as heck would walk over to Karakter for evening entertainment one night.


Carol Hill

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