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SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors #227663
06/08/2020 11:28 AM
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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: Carol_Hill] #227664
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They will need a lot of tests on hand.

Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: SXMScubaman] #227666
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I question whether the advance test might make more sense. What happens if a person tests positive on the rapid test and they are a visitor? I would assume they would be required to be quarantined and it seems SXM government has very few such quarantine facilities. And I would assume there would be some push-back to the requirement that the person quarantined be required to pay for the cost of it?


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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: Carol_Hill] #227667
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Why not have the rapid tests done in the boarding areas of each airline before departure, I don't think people would want
arrive in St. Maarten and test positive and have to fly back home. And if I tested positive I would rather be close to our hospitals
if need be.

Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: Carol_Hill] #227668
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That and if you test positive but are actually negative or visa versa? There have been some inconsistencies with some of those tests.

Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: WLE] #227669
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That's a good point. I think the islands that have required the test so far are requiring it upon arrival though.


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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: Carol_Hill] #227670
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We don't have enough tests for the population, let alone visitors.


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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: BillandElaine] #227671
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That better change or there will be no visitors allowed in if that is what they plan on doing.

Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: BillandElaine] #227673
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I agree with you Elaine. As WLE said, I would much rather be closer to home if I found out I was infected. Visitors should not be taking away tests that the residents of the island may need and having to just turn around and leave? Don't know what the minister is thinking--if he is. The tests should be done at point of departure.

Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: SXMScubaman] #227674
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If they can't get them for their own people...


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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: Carol_Hill] #227675
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Maybe I’m wrong, and I will openly admit I’m a ‘what if’ kind of person but I think there will be a lot more preplanning needed before anyone is allowed to return as a vacationer. There’s still a lot of unanswered questions and issues that need to be resolved before I’d be willing to come back and I really, really want to come back to St. Maarten. But I want to do it safely!!


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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: BillandElaine] #227676
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Lots of time to acquire those needed if that is what is planned.

Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: Carol_Hill] #227677
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This sounds like a good idea on the surface, but from a practicality stand point I don't believe this will work. And, for how long of a period would they intend to do this for? Testing asymptomatic people in advance will be a waste of these tests that can be better used on symptomatic residents and visitors on the island. Presenting a negative test in advance might work, but a person could be infected in the time between their test and their arrival on St. Martin. I would propose temperature checks at all airports flying to St. Martin and follow-up temperature checks at PJIA. If a temperature greater than 99.5 Fahrenheit is recorded, then the possibility of a rapid COVID-19 test could be administered. Eventually, once a vaccine is available officials could and probably should require proof of vaccination in advance of arrival on SXM.

Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: SXMScubaman] #227687
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Less than 500 people here have been tested. If I can't get a test, why should you?


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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: Carol_Hill] #227688
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If someone tests positive on arrival, haven’t they potentially infected others on the plane? It doesn’t seem that this idea has been thought through.

Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: MrWhiskerssammy] #227689
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It is my understanding that most other islands that have announced a plan so far have required a negative Covid 19 test no more than 2 or 3 days PRIOR to the flight. Therefore the cost of the test and the consequences, if the person tests positive, would be borne in the person's country of origin. While this doesn't seem like a perfect plan either, because the person could go from negative to positive in two days, (or the test could plain be WRONG), it seems to make more sense than a plan to test AFTER people arrive.


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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: Carol_Hill] #227692
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It could/should be game changer on all of these protocols if the announcement by the WHO yesterday that it is rare for an asymptomatic person to spread the virus, is correct and accepted as solid science.

Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: CaribEagle] #227694
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Who knows, but the exact opposite was told By “official gurus” 2 months ago that asymptomatics were super spreaders in Korea and Europe.

Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: Carol_Hill] #227695
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This is a stupid idea... The rapid test is for those who have had covid 19 and recovered. How many here have had Covid 19?

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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: Carol_Hill] #227696
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Think about this. You come here, bring or get the virus and have to be hospitalized. Do you realize our COVID hospital is in tents? In hurricane season. With 12 or 14 ventilators.


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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: sxmmartini] #227697
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My understanding is that the test they are talking about is the one that detects an active infection. It appears there are two different types of rapid tests.

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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: BillandElaine] #227698
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Originally Posted by BillandElaine
Think about this. You come here, bring or get the virus and have to be hospitalized. Do you realize our COVID hospital is in tents? In hurricane season. With 12 or 14 ventilators.


With all due respect think about this, I along with others come don't get sick and spend lots of money in the local economy thereby helping those on the island that are working everyday to support their families. If I lived in fear of what could happen I would never leave my house much less get on a plane to fly (plane could crash), rent a car to drive (people die daily in car wrecks), swim in the ocean (drowning- 320,000 deaths in 2016), walk under a coconut tree (150 deaths annually from falling coconuts), walk outside to get the mail or exercise (cardiac arrest). Reasonable precautions can and should be take to determine illness and then people can simply be smart about hygiene.

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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: CaribEagle] #227700
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And that's a choice everyone makes. But you have to be aware of the situation here before making that decision. Believe me, many of our friends and neighbors are in dire straits and I hope, for their sake, a comfortable solution can be found.


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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: Carol_Hill] #227722
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Testing upon arrival showing positive means other passengers and the crew should be quarantined.

Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: Carol_Hill] #227785
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as far as getting documentation substantiating testing 2-3 prior....the diagnostic companies are so overwhelmed in the the northeast i couldn't get results for upwards of 7-10 days. kinda thwarts that recommendation.

Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: bizzottom] #227789
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Agreed, in many places it is very difficult to obtain a test, let alone to get a result in a timely fashion.


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Re: SXM minister proposes rapid antigen test for visitors [Re: Carol_Hill] #227794
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Not easy in Washingtonian State either.


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