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Re: Service charge?
[Re: Manpot]
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11/04/2021 03:50 PM
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Tax on a food bill is always a service charge and a con if you ask me. I always tip ( To Insure Promp Service) 20 % but really object to that con and anybody who tries to defend it. I know many folks who will never add any more $$ if that tax stunt is pulled. Your captain should be ashamed for defending and lying about it. We dont need to pi$$ off or ripoff folks who are jumping though hoops to spend their $$ here..Rant over. Well, it wouldn't be the only thing that week our captain should have been ashamed of ...sadly.
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Re: Service charge?
[Re: harleybuffett]
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11/04/2021 10:15 PM
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Fitzhughlaw
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There was a good discussion of this issue, and how some establishments abuse the "service charge" issue by making it appear to be a "tip" for the server, when in fact it's distributed to a wide swath of the staff and is thus merely a way for a restaurant's owner to defray overhead by deception: http://www.traveltalkonline.com/ubb...-service-charges-tipping.html#Post253445I'm going to be spending a lot of time in the BVI after an absence for a number of years, and I am going assiduously inquire about this to the management of any restaurant that I patronize, posing some specific questions about who gets any "service charge" and if the server gets all of it, or just some of it (or none of it).
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Re: Service charge?
[Re: harleybuffett]
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11/05/2021 08:24 AM
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JasonHelmbrecht
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Even in the US, I don't think the server gets the full tip so that part should be fine. Even before restaurants set policies about distribution of gratuities, it was common for servers to tip-out busboys, bartenders, sometimes even the host(ess) more or less at their discretion. Now I think it's common practice for tips to be shared across servers, shared with other staff, etc.
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Re: Service charge?
[Re: harleybuffett]
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11/05/2021 10:01 AM
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I seem to recall the BVI passed a law some years ago requiring any restaurant that imposed a service charge to set up a committee, including at least one back of house person, to determine how the money would be distributed.
They all hope tourists will miss the service charge and leave another 20% - at least I've never heard one say "Oh no, you've already paid a tip!"
In my mind, if your kitchen help should earn more, then raise their wages! Of course that would cost more, even during slow periods. The service charge is a way of paying them more when the restaurant is busier.
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Re: Service charge?
[Re: McLovin]
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11/06/2021 08:16 AM
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In my experience, generally, the best meals for the trip take place on the boat. How much of a service charge to you slip to the crew?
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Re: Service charge?
[Re: bailau]
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11/06/2021 03:19 PM
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In my experience, generally, the best meals for the trip take place on the boat. How much of a service charge to you slip to the crew? Well I am captain and cook. The menu is to prevent scurvy and mutinies. I don't like included "tax/service charge/tip" because in my mind, it depreciates the value of really good service. If 20% is needed to stay profitable then raise the prices. It seem charging the same fee for carryout as dine in is insulting to the wait staff.
Mike in Baltimore
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Re: Service charge?
[Re: harleybuffett]
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11/06/2021 03:54 PM
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MrEZgoin
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Maybe leave a complex tip with a real and an imaginary part :-)
M4000 "Lio Kai"
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