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Re: Mooring ball condition
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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04/27/2022 08:51 PM
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maytrix
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They should be ashamed and get them in good shape asap. The charter companies should be pressuring them for this as well.
Matt
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Re: Mooring ball condition
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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04/28/2022 10:34 AM
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MrEZgoin
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Just got off a ball at the indians that had obviously been very recently replaced.
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Re: Mooring ball condition
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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04/28/2022 11:24 AM
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MrEZgoin
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I didn't make a count, but we did snorkel over the top of one unused mooring anchor. Didn't strike me as greatly fewer than in the past.
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Re: Mooring ball condition
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04/28/2022 02:21 PM
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The Northern most ball at Mountain point looks similar however the damaged area is all underwater. That ball looks like one we passed on at Monkey point. Isn’t it a BotyBall? Looks like it but then again I can’t enlarge it enough on my phone.
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Re: Mooring ball condition
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05/18/2022 01:31 PM
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JasonHelmbrecht
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On May 11th, while in CGB, we witnessed a Moorings cat that was drifting towards the reef…with the Boatyball still attached! We were on the gas dock at the time. Two people at the gas dock jumped in a dinghy and boarded the cat, started the engine and started motoring it off the reef. We then witnessed the charter come up from below. Had to be a rude awakening to hear your boat start while you were in your bunk.
Not sure who is responsible? It appeared that the chain was still on the ball we assumed the chain broke off the bottom? weird. I see quite a bit of mooring ball maintenance in CGB. They were just out there yesterday.
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Re: Mooring ball condition
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05/19/2022 04:25 PM
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The picture of the boat at CDB moored to the boatyball is tied up totally wrong. Never use one rope from cleat to cleat. You need a rope on each side for redundancy and chaff protection. G True, but the ball actually broke away from the bottom
Colleen
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Re: Mooring ball condition
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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05/19/2022 05:23 PM
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The picture of the boat at CDB moored to the boatyball is tied up totally wrong. Never use one rope from cleat to cleat. You need a rope on each side for redundancy and chaff protection. G In addition those front "cleats" should just be used as chocks anyways....and then use the port/starboard real cleats to hold the boat using 2 ropes as you suggest
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Re: Mooring ball condition
[Re: TC42]
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05/20/2022 02:44 PM
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Last month when we were in the North Sound I saw two boats on balls that had ropes going through the pendant and back to the appropriate cleats but they ran the lines on the outside of the hulls. I don't typically see it that way ,but I assume that they did it to widen the lines and avoid chaff. Although it would seem that the ropes would rub on the hulls a bit. Anyone else tie in that way? I typically toss the ropes to the outside as well. Keeps the rope from going over the top of the hulls and pulling down there.....or worse having something weird happen and putting pressure against the metal tubing for seats up front.
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Re: Mooring ball condition
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05/20/2022 03:20 PM
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Last month when we were in the North Sound I saw two boats on balls that had ropes going through the pendant and back to the appropriate cleats but they ran the lines on the outside of the hulls. I don't typically see it that way ,but I assume that they did it to widen the lines and avoid chaff. Although it would seem that the ropes would rub on the hulls a bit. Anyone else tie in that way? Absolutely it is the proper way to moor. The lines are then at the strongest part of the bow. We were taught to moor this way eons ago and it is reinforced by our yacht management company. Do we get some rub? A little and I will be replacing my logo soon but I want those lines where they are most effective.
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Re: Mooring ball condition
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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05/21/2022 02:12 AM
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MrEZgoin
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So... why NOT use the crossbeam cleats as fairleads and avoid getting bottom paint all over your dock lines?
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Re: Mooring ball condition
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05/21/2022 04:55 PM
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I used that method on my cat for several years with no problems, but I’ve since reconsidered given that crossbeams are not meant to take heavy loads perpendicular to their length. I think it’s better to tie a bowline on one end of each dock line, put the bight around the deck cleat, run the bitter end through the morning ball pennant, then back to the deck cleat, secured with a cleat hitch over the bowline bight.
Tom Garvey
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Re: Mooring ball condition
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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05/25/2022 04:22 PM
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Monkey Point day ball repair/replacement. At least they are working on day balls. Pulled divers around to dive and cut off old Lines and replace with new lines, balls and Pennants. [img]http:// https://share.icloud.com/photos/04eQPgF-VNPxgDNKE95t6-S3g[/img]
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