Air France touch-and-go at SXM

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Air France touch-and-go at SXM #294334 01/20/2023 08:33 PM 01/20/2023 08:33 PM
Joined: Jun 2019 Posts: 148 Arlen, TX BillDauterive OP Traveler
BillDauterive OP Traveler Joined: Jun 2019 Posts: 148 Arlen, TX	Touch-and-go landing at SXM happened today, Friday Jan 20. Aborted landing. Caught on video by Maho beach cam. Maho beach cam video is here. Island cam is here. flightradar24.com playback is here.

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Re: Air France touch-and-go at SXM [Re: BillDauterive] #294335 01/20/2023 09:15 PM 01/20/2023 09:15 PM
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 4,870 Kennys Traveler
Kennys Traveler Joined: May 2002 Posts: 4,870	Not getting it .

Re: Air France touch-and-go at SXM [Re: BillDauterive] #294343 01/21/2023 07:43 AM 01/21/2023 07:43 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,896 Massachusetts boucharda Traveler
boucharda Traveler Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,896 Massachusetts	That's what happened on Monday x 3 but at least then there was a storm to blame. Yesterday was pretty nice...strange Video looks like the aircraft actually touched down and then aborted Last edited by boucharda; 01/21/2023 07:46 AM.

Re: Air France touch-and-go at SXM [Re: boucharda] #294349 01/21/2023 09:45 AM 01/21/2023 09:45 AM
Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 80,044 Central Florida! Carol_Hill Traveler
Carol_Hill Traveler Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 80,044 Central Florida!	boucharda--I could be wrong, but isn't that what a "touch and go" is? Carol Hill

Re: Air France touch-and-go at SXM [Re: BillDauterive] #294355 01/21/2023 10:50 AM 01/21/2023 10:50 AM
Joined: Jun 2019 Posts: 148 Arlen, TX BillDauterive OP Traveler
BillDauterive OP Traveler Joined: Jun 2019 Posts: 148 Arlen, TX	Yeah, Carol. If the wheels don't touch it's called a "low pass." And typically both low-pass and touch-and-go are done for three reasons: - Pilot in training, practicing approach and/or landing. - When the PIC (pilot in command) misjudges the approach and is concerned that there isn't sufficient runway remaining to stop the aircraft before the end of the runway. - PIC sees an obstruction on the runway, and decides to abort the landing. For the AF flight, I think it's the second one. Actually, hope it's the second one!

Re: Air France touch-and-go at SXM [Re: Carol_Hill] #294360 01/21/2023 11:24 AM 01/21/2023 11:24 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,896 Massachusetts boucharda Traveler
boucharda Traveler Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,896 Massachusetts	Originally Posted by Carol_Hill boucharda--I could be wrong, but isn't that what a "touch and go" is? Correct...my "Duh"

Re: Air France touch-and-go at SXM [Re: boucharda] #294367 01/21/2023 03:06 PM 01/21/2023 03:06 PM
Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 80,044 Central Florida! Carol_Hill Traveler
Carol_Hill Traveler Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 80,044 Central Florida!	boucharda--ok Carol Hill

Re: Air France touch-and-go at SXM [Re: BillDauterive] #294381 01/21/2023 09:03 PM 01/21/2023 09:03 PM
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CYOWDave Traveler C Joined: Oct 2021 Posts: 30 Canada	Looked like a go-around to me; a touch and go I understand to be planned, I doubt this was. When I have watched Air France land the wheels usually touch down bang on the target, i.e. pretty much lined up with the PAPI (red lights), the video of the first attempt shows the touch down point significantly past there, my guess is that's why they went around. Maybe the crew judged that another ton of Jet A burned in a go-around was better than hot brakes from landing long? Thanks for posting anyway, always interesting to watch things at PJIA! Dave.

Re: Air France touch-and-go at SXM [Re: BillDauterive] #294385 01/21/2023 09:56 PM 01/21/2023 09:56 PM
Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 17 Idaho R Rumlover Traveler
Rumlover Traveler R Joined: Mar 2018 Posts: 17 Idaho	I was standing on the stairs to board my Delta flight at the south end of the terminal, when Air France attempted the landing. I did not see the wheels touch the ground prior to the pilot applying power for the go around. Looking at Goole Earth, the black marks on the runway mostly end at gate 2. My WAG was he was a little long on the touch down and aborted.

Re: Air France touch-and-go at SXM [Re: Rumlover] #294391 01/22/2023 12:28 AM 01/22/2023 12:28 AM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 17,147 Auburn, WA SXMScubaman Traveler
SXMScubaman Traveler Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 17,147 Auburn, WA	Something we'll never know for sure what happened but at least it wasn't a news worthy issue.

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