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building itinerary
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01/16/2015 10:04 AM
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Hi; I'm looking for itinerary ideas, links to existing itineraries, trip reviews, etc. I am (pending transportation queries) attempting to charter a cat from TMM Feb 22-Mar 1 2015 with 3-5 others. I'm basically doing the planning etc, I've never been to the BVI, or the USVI for that matter. I've got friends in St Thomas working dive shops and just outside running flats charters, but they'll be busy and I don't want to bother them with a ton of questions - plus they dont' spend their time cruising. The group is in their 30s and active, they want to sail a lot, fish if possible, generally play in the water, etc. I'd appreciate any help with reference material from previous trips, trending/appropriate weather considerations for that time of year, or just personal favorite areas and why. I'd personally like to avoid, if possible, areas jam packed with bareboats & cruisers 24/7, for a lot of reasons.
I've never bareboat charted before - so any tips associated with checking out, provisioning, or returning to speed those processes up would be appreciated. I realize that chartering out of the USVI would have provided a lot of ease on the travel front, maybe next time. Right now I'm tackling ticket purchasing and trying to figure out the ferry tricks; I run a water taxi in Alaska, I wish I could just pay a guy to run us over there when we fly in but I understand the immigration/customs issue.
Any advice is welcome, I appreciate the time and consideration. Thanks!
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Re: building itinerary
[Re: chanceak]
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01/16/2015 10:52 AM
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You should understand that you are going during high season and starting on the weekend. Therefore, avoiding crowded areas will be very difficult. If that is your primary objective, you will need to stay away from the nightime anchorages with popular beach bars/restaurants. Since this will be your first time, my suggestion is that you visit the spots that are popular to get an understanding of what the BVI have to offer. A counter-clockwise itinerary is generally preferred. So anchorages such as Marina Cay, Leverick, Saba Rock, Anegada, JVD, Norman, Peter, and Cooper might make your list. Get to each one early to get a comfortable spot and enjoy. If that sounds reasonable, I am sure you will get plenty of suggestions on specific things to do.
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Re: building itinerary
[Re: chanceak]
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01/16/2015 07:05 PM
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Welcome to TTOL! We will be sailing that week too, fromTMM. I have several trip reports on our boat's web page, including Beerman's. www.sailmardigras.comI would recommend sleeping aboard your cat the night prior to your charter, it really makes it easier to get your gear and provisions stowed as well as getting familiar with your boat. I agree about getting the cruising guide and Virgin Anchorages books now to get familiar with the area. For provisions, we use Bobby's and Caribbean Cellars. For fishing, we troll with hand lines. I suggest you apply for your fishing license soon. Most charterers moor and don't anchor, I would not avoid an anchorage because of the concerns you mentioned. Most boaters are courteous but there are always exceptions. A few not to miss items: Michael Beans Pirate Show at Leverick, Friday night BBQ at Leverick, Safari Truck rental tour of Virgin Gorda (Baths, Hog Heaven), Saba Rock Happy Hour/Tarpon Feeding, Swapping non-politically correct jokes with Foxy, Bushwacker at Scrub Island Resorts Infinity Pool, lunch at Cooper Island Beach Club Hope to see you there, Tony
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Re: building itinerary
[Re: Mardi_Gras]
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01/17/2015 12:51 AM
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Fishing Tackle, Rental Rod&Reel, Squid, Ballyhoo can be purchased from Last Stop Sports, they can deliver https://www.laststopsports.comWhere to fish? We caught a MahiMahi while sailing from JVD to Monkey Point Island. Caught Barracuda in Francis Drake Channel and North of Scrub. I'm sure there are more productive areas (North Drop or SE of Virgin Gorda but we haven't tried it). Don't eat reef fish (snapper, grouper or Barracuda) will get you sick (Cugentera sp?) OK to eat Mahi or Wahoo; since I will be there probably best to let me sample it (he he) if you catch one.
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Re: building itinerary
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01/17/2015 11:33 AM
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Mardi Gras/Tony; Thanks for all the advice! I like to dive so I don't want to munch on reef fish, but I had read about the potential health hazards - I'm keen on getting blue water fish, but just enough to eat. I also guide charters, so I'm familiar with the gear, they just use it differently down South. That's good to know it can be rented, and it's apparently affordable. Do you know if a sampling of tackle is provided? I know those blue water surface lures aren't cheap and I might save a few bucks by buying some in advance online. Cody sounds familiar but I'm admittedly terrible with names. We run our business out of Seward, do you know where he works? We have a lot of tour operators in the area. I've actually never sailed in Alaska, in fact I've only really ever gone on one sailing trip, but it was a doozy. Is anyone familiar with the storage capacity on a Lapari 41 sail cat? My sailboat was an older C&C and under all of the deck seating we had huge storage capacity (I could probably have slept in there on either side). I want to ensure we have provisions in the way of water/libations but I also know that it's not my boat, and the straps, lines, etc to secure the gear I generally have will likely not be available. If I bring a few sets of dive gear, 12 gallons of water, a few cases of beer, etc - will there be storage enough to utilize to keep it from being underfoot? Is a cooler necessary / available at TMM? I can't seem to find any videos/photos of an actual objective owners walkthru of the boat other than those showing the boat for sale. Breeze - Thank you for the thought - I'm relatively familiar with the laid back nature and timing of Central and South American culture in general, and I assumed as much from the VI. My friend guiding down there referred me to a valuable video to watch on repeat until I learn the local dialect: http://youtu.be/LMr7_zcqXAo (NSFW). It sounds just like the bay islands of Honduras but without the spackling of Spanish. The crew will be mostly new to the boating idea and I'm sure any extra time spent during orientation will be fine, I'll have plenty to blather on about. That's an excellent idea regarding meals ashore the first night, I'm sure that was on the itinerary anyway; but it's good to reinforce. I like the idea of traveling from Norman Island to Anegada, and then West and South from there. It seems like weather permitting it would allow for fishing on the outside or smooth sailing on the inside, and it looks anyway like the passages through the islands from East to West are all navigable, unlike that shallow coral studded mess we had to deal with in Belize. I guess the next step is applying for fishing licenses and filling out provisioning lists - though I'd really like to get a grasp on space available before submitting. Are there any forbidden import items through customs? Can I bring (for example) my fillet knife, a few spices, etc? I know in Central America traveling with a knife roll is not always appreciated by the men in uniform. I suppose I can read about that somewhere. Thanks again! -Chance.
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Re: building itinerary
[Re: Mardi_Gras]
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01/17/2015 03:15 PM
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