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78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company #51097
04/20/2015 11:13 AM
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A 78-room Dutch Side hotel has been bought by a US company. What resorts on the Dutch Side are 78 rooms? Immediately thought of Alegria, but I thought Alegria was bigger... and this appears to have just happened, from what I've learned so far.


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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: jmbcomms] #51098
04/20/2015 11:58 AM
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I don't know how many rooms they have there, but think it is more also. And isn't Alegria already owned by a US company? What about Sonesta Great Bay? Just a wild a$$ guess. There really aren't a lot of traditional 'hotels' on the Dutch side and most are much smaller than 78 rooms. What about Sapphire, although it's not a hotel either.

But, just asking, if someone told you that such a sale took place, why didn't they tell you which hotel?


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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: Carol_Hill] #51099
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Great Bay has 250+ rooms. Maybe a P'burg hotel?

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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: JohnandBev] #51100
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Holland House has 55 rooms so, rule that out.

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: JohnandBev] #51101
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OK, I had no idea Great Bay had that many rooms. Again, Sea Palace is not just a hotel per se, but what about Sea Palace?


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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: Carol_Hill] #51102
04/20/2015 12:23 PM
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i think Sapphire has 180+ units..


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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: IslandBoi] #51103
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Yes, I just looked that up. No idea what the answer is.


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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: jmbcomms] #51104
04/20/2015 12:36 PM
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Here goes the speculation!

The C building of Alegria is about that size, and the Towers is about that size.

Ocean Club was for sale, but I do not think they have that many units but I have no idea of the size of the "Waterview Apartments" portion of the place.

I hope it works out for all regardless of if something was actually sold or where.

Cheers,
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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: Todd] #51105
04/20/2015 12:37 PM
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Princess Port de Plaisance has 88 rooms???

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: RoryS] #51106
04/20/2015 02:12 PM
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Could it be Paasaagrahan?

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: jmbcomms] #51107
04/20/2015 02:16 PM
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Belair has 78 rooms and has been for sale.

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: CLIFFTOPS] #51108
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Belair already owned by NYC company.

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: Tom] #51109
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it could have been purchased by another U S company.
The current owner was letting it be known they were ready to sell.

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: CLIFFTOPS] #51110
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Towers at Mullet Bay has 81 rooms

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: RonDon] #51111
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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: jmbcomms] #51112
04/20/2015 08:18 PM
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Alegria bought by Seminoles?

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: RI Bob C] #51113
04/20/2015 08:30 PM
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Might as well get that rummer started again. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: SXMScubaman] #51114
04/20/2015 10:45 PM
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Maybe it's the two unfinished buildings by Alegria

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: SXMScubaman] #51115
04/21/2015 08:32 AM
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Expedia lists Alegria as having 78 rooms.

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: RI Bob C] #51116
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90 rooms @ Atrium . lots of inquires by individuals looking to purchase rooms. For controlling interests?

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: SXMScubaman] #51117
04/21/2015 12:56 PM
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rummer? not sure what you me... maybe rumor or am I missing something.

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: RI Bob C] #51118
04/21/2015 01:02 PM
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I saw that. Didn't "Caravanserai" have a lot more?


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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: CLIFFTOPS] #51119
04/21/2015 01:03 PM
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New England (home), St. Maarte...
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Interesting...


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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: Carol_Hill] #51120
04/21/2015 01:06 PM
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It's a looooong story... I've been a reporter pretty much all my life (radio, tv, newspapers, private businesses) and we get stories in a million different ways...


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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: Carol_Hill] #51121
04/21/2015 01:07 PM
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"Looks" smaller, but have not yet found # of rooms. Alegria wouldn't surprise me at all...


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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: jmbcomms] #51122
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Since they never finished the shells, Trip Advisor is probably correct, the 60+ former timeshares in the B & C buildings plus the hotel rooms near the lobby Could be 78.

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: RI Bob C] #51123
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I heard Manek bought it

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: madg1108] #51124
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Manek and Verdier 50/50

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: Todd] #51125
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Ocean Club has 25 units in the "Waterview Apartments" building, plus 18 units in the poolside villas (excluding the 2 villas that are privately owned, and excluding the 8 oceanfront villas).

Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: jmbcomms] #51126
04/23/2015 10:35 AM
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It is very strange that this information would be released without the name of the hotel. It just leads to far too much speculation.




Re: Bob Dot -- Seminoles [Re: islandgem] #51127
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Whatever happened with the story of Hard Rock Hotel moving onto the island?

Originally at the Pelican, as I recall.

Perhaps it's them?????????

gary

Re: Bob Dot -- Seminoles [Re: gtaylor] #51128
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They went to Aruba.

SXM??? Wendell

Re: Bob Dot -- Seminoles [Re: gtaylor] #51129
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The litigation with regard to the purchase of the former Pelican resolved maybe six months ago, with the court ruling that the transaction was not validly completed. Thus there is still some negotiating--or litigation-- to do, to determine who has valid title to the property. Possibly, once that is actually concluded, the Seminoles might still be interested. Who knows?


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From reading another post here in a different thread, it was reported that the Marriot Hotel Group have visited ALEGRIA and are interested in having a large complex developed there. Perhaps that is the 78 room hotel that is under discussion here.




Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: madg1108] #51131
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Manek. Growl......


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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: BGH] #51132
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That would be one scary combination. Nightmares!


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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: drewmon] #51133
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I still don't know who it is. Bel Air is a possibility too...


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I still don't know who it is. Bel Air is a possibility too...


Belair has less than 78 rooms(suites)


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Re: 78-Room Dutch Side Hotel Bought by US Company [Re: jmbcomms] #51135
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Jeff,

It is likely to be Alegria as it boasts 78 hotel rooms. http://www.alegriasxm.com/amenities/hotel-amenities.htm

Secondly there is another thread (Alegria and Cruise 360) that a rep for Alegria is boasting about Marriots involvement to create a Residence Inn there.

Marriot does not normally buy hotels but establishes marketing agreements with owners to brand the property and use their reservation system.

Rob


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