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Re: Dress code - Dinner in July
[Re: weeks5051]
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weeks5051 said: If I saw a man wearing capris, I would just assume that he lost a bet. Most of the men's shorts I see, I would consider capris. Not sure how they call them shorts, when they go way below the knees.
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Re: Dress code - Dinner in July
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Capris are closer to the ankle than the knee. They are more like pants, but shorter. Most men don't bother wearing them as they are more for women's fashion.
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Re: Dress code - Dinner in July
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While it is true that none of the GC restaurants will refuse service or even comment on customers who wear very casual atire, our experiences are that if we dress in what I'll arbitrarily call "evening casual" clothes we do seem to get a sense of appreciation from the staff for showing up in kakhi long pants and a nice, collared, short sleeve sport shirt for me and a nice summer sun dress for Linda as our subtle way of showing respect for the fine dining experience we are about to enjoy...
But even more appreciated than the way we dress is our honoring the French tradition of politeness by engaging in simple pleasantries when we first walk in ... like "Good Evening...How are you this evening?...we look forward to enjoying our dinner here this evening..."etc...before getting "down to business".
If I can dredge up some of these polite pleasantries in French from my ancient high school French classes, so much the better.
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Re: Dress code - Dinner in July
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Bill_S said: While it is true that none of the GC restaurants will refuse service or even comment on customers who wear very casual <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/dine.gif" alt="" /> Since we witnessed that it DID happen your statement "while it's true that none of the GC restaurants will refuse..." is incorrect. I agree that if one doesn't want to wear long pants then they have many choices of places to eat in SXM---one restaurant doesn't even require clothing at all! But one takes chances if they truly wish to dine in GC and not at a LOLO. My motto is better be safe than sorry. Anyone coming from New England or Canada probably wears long pants when leaving home so they have them already what effort does it take to look proper at a fine dining restaurant?
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Re: Dress code - Dinner in July
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08/31/2016 06:53 PM
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Actually long, loose linen pants are quite comfortable, and have the added benefit of keeping mosquitoes off your ankles. I'm one who believes that the nicer spots are deserving of nicer clothing by diners. If you look at any of the French couples you see dining in the fine restaurants in Grand Case, you will find them dressed to the nines. I just find it respectful to dress up a bit for the nice restaurants.
I've seen diners in shorts, t-shirts, and flip flops turned away from a Grand Case restaurant. That was several years ago, and now that business is down somewhat, that may not be the case.
But yes, it is absolutely up to you. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Dress code - Dinner in July
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09/01/2016 09:56 AM
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I'm glad you said it first, and I couldn't agree more. Not only is it disrespectful to your host (and paying does not give you the privilege of being disrespectful), you are also being disrespectful of the other diners and the enjoyment of their dining experience. I personally have never been uncomfortable in linen slacks and a light collared shirt, especially in the evening air, and women in sundresses look pretty comfortable to me. There's dress casual which is okay, and then there's "don't give a damn" casual, which isn't. Just my old stick in the mud opinion.
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Re: Dress code - Dinner in July
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RonDon said: Ditto to what GaKaye writes.
Can't be sure when it happened but that has changed. When I asked at one restaurant I was told Americans come eat fast leave and we're left with empty tables so now we serve anytime and the table turn-over make us more money. I don't remember exactly when it was when we went to what was once our favorite Grand Case restaurant, L'Auberge Gourmande. Unlike our previous times there, the waitstaff was all over us, constantly asking how things were, and if we needed anything. It was clear that they had changed their service from the typical French service to what most Americans want. Sorry, but I don't want that. We've not been back since.
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Re: Dress code - Dinner in July
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09/02/2016 05:32 PM
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No, I don't think they do either, but most don't make us feel rushed either. For me, typical French service is attentive at the beginning, and once my food is delivered the server doesn't come back to check and see if everything's ok. He knows it is. I can see him across the room, and if we make eye contact, he's at my table quickly to see what I need. He watches our wine glasses and sees that they're never empty. When he sees we're both finished with our meals he'll come and clear, bringing the dessert menu with him. After dessert, he doesn't return to the table until I ask for the check. I don't like a server who constantly stops by and asks if everything is OK, do I need anything. Probably my biggest pet peeve is a server who clears my husband's plate and asks if we want dessert while I'm still eating my entree. That's just rude. Most Americans are in too much of a hurry to get in and out of a restaurant to really enjoy a fine meal. I like the more relaxed tenor of European service.
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