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Very interesting indeed.  This was not an overbooking situation at all, and the guy wasn't manhandled until after he ran back onto the plane.  At that time he became a security risk. |  |  |  
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No, that's not true.  #6 in her blog was absolutely incorrect. He was manhandled and drug down the aisle, hitting his head on one of the seats, and was virtually knocked unconscious to begin with.  All of that was BEFORE he ran back on the plane, which I don't understand how that could have happened, that he was able to run back onto the plane. But his injuries definitely happened in the first go round.
 There were several inaccuracies in her post, including that "must fly" business.  The flight that the crew was supposed to man was due to leave the NEXT morning, and United could have gotten the crew there by driving 4 hours. As it was, the plane left three hours late, so driving would have gotten them there at almost the same time.
 
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See where the officer has finally been suspended pending investigation. |  |  |  
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Carol_Hill said:No, that's not true.  He was manhandled and drug down the aisle, hitting his head on one of the seats, and was virtually knocked unconscious to begin with.  All of that was BEFORE he ran back on the plane, which I don't understand how that could have happened, that he was able to run back onto the plane. But his injuries definitely happened in the first go round.
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Bob_Dot said:See where the officer has finally been suspended pending investigation.
Pretty much standard procedure with an officer involved incident. |  |  |  
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In a death, certainly, that's standard procedure. 
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Interesting read indeed.  The writer raises some valid points, and is completely wrong on others.  I would like to see the DOT reg which is referred to in the post though.  Also, there is no mention of bumping for "must ride" in any airline's Contract of Carriage which I've ever read, and I've read many. |  |  |  
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I was not trying to create any more controversy about this, just posting another perspective and information.  Some is probably factual and some is probably opinion.
 While I do not agree with how things were initially handled and what has been shown in the press....I do wonder if there is more to this story than what any of us know at this time?  Ugly situation and probably more information and facts than what has already been released.
 
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IslandBoi said:doesn't have anything to do with what UA did, but interesting stuff nonetheless  <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" /> Doctor's HistoryInteresting......... |  |  |  
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I hadn't thought of that before, but since they're offering money, I have to assume some enterprising lawyer is threatening a class action suit on behalf of the passengers. 
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I wouldn't go as far as to assume that.  Refunding the fare is just a good PR way to start. |  |  |  
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Refunding the fare with a clause preventing claims is just good business. Refunding without that is charity or advertising. |  |  |  
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Refunding the fare, if that's what "receiving compensation for the cost of their tickets" means, is a drop of cash.  What United will eventually pay out is closer to a hemorrhage. |  |  |  
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His lawyer is on T.V. right now, and his daughter. He is taking questions... My question is!!!! He was getting hurt being pulled off the plane .why did he resist so much and for so long? That does not make this right, but I would like to think, most would have gotten up and left and taken this up with the airline... Sure he had to get home, but he took a beating for it. He has a concussion, two teeth out, and broken nose... Holy cow, what a law suit... but why put up such a dam fight... Hope this helps others with this overbooking problem... Maybe this had to happen... |  |  |  
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Did you watch the video?? He initially resisted some, while still in his seat, and after that, he appears to be basically unconscious, while they are dragging him down the aisle. 
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Ok. I did not see that... I suppose all of this will be clarified in time... Perhaps he was dazed. I just can not believe anyone would put themselves through that... His lawyer was asked the question, and he just said!!! He wanted to go home.. The airline will pay dearly for this, and as people that fly, perhaps this will change how they treat passengers... this should never happen again... |  |  |  
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There is also a video of the conversation that took place before he was taken out of his seat.  He had ample opportunity to comply but resisted and said he would rather go to jail than give up his seat.  Officers asked again and he got confrontational and then the physical confrontation happened. He was already on the phone and was talking about suing before taken out of his seat.http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-vid...MpPR?li=BBnb7Kz
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Well, He certainly may be unhinged, but for the record!!! He will win either way. They could have realized what they were dealing with and moved on. Instead of the fiasco the happened pulling him off... I believe he was wrong in resisting, but they were wrong in there approach... Big lawsuit will be in the works, and because of his injurys, he will win... The airlines should never ever do this to any passenger no matter what there mental state... This will serve as a lesson to united and other airlines.... Very sad... |  |  |  
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I liked Continental when it existed. As United it has gone to the bottom of the list in all ways. 
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