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Sea Snake #131623
06/02/2017 12:39 PM
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So we are about to get in the dinghy at Foxy's Taboo to get back to the boat and what do we see? A cream colored pencil thin snake swimming on the surface. Although it was thin, it looked to be 3-4 feet in length. I had never seen one in 30 years. Very strange

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Re: Sea Snake [Re: captaugie] #131624
06/02/2017 12:51 PM
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There are NO sea snakes, in the Caribbean.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: casailor53] #131625
06/02/2017 02:03 PM
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There are NO sea snakes, in the Caribbean.


I saw one in Maho Bay a few weeks ago so apparently the snakes don't know that.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: CaptainJay] #131626
06/02/2017 02:07 PM
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I have seen them in muskmeon bay coming to our night lights. They must be traveling thru.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: TIMRIM] #131627
06/02/2017 02:21 PM
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I figured if several say they saw a Sea Snake in the BVI's they must be right. However, upon googling the question asking if there are Sea Snakes there the resounding answer from every article was no.

No Sea Snakes.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: RickinAtlanta] #131628
06/02/2017 02:25 PM
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Google don't know everything yet

Re: Sea Snake [Re: TIMRIM] #131629
06/02/2017 02:33 PM
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Very likely that it was an eel.


Shaptail Eel

Re: Sea Snake [Re: TIMRIM] #131630
06/02/2017 02:34 PM
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Google don't know everything yet


"Google" pulls up reference articles from numerous legitimate sources. Here's another reference from a reliable source, B-V-I.com. Maybe you've heard of it?

Give "Google" a try sometime you might find it interesting.

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Snake Eel. Another eel, the Snake Eel, resemble snakes, but there are no sea snakes in the Caribbean. Snake Eels have behavior resembling Morays, although they may at times be seen foraging in the open during the day.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: RickinAtlanta] #131631
06/02/2017 02:57 PM
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An island state of mind
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Many land snakes are decent swimmers.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: tradewinds] #131632
06/02/2017 03:14 PM
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Many land snakes are decent swimmers.


Then that would be a Land Snake that swims. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" />

Re: Sea Snake [Re: RickinAtlanta] #131633
06/02/2017 07:37 PM
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Without a doubt we saw a sea snake at Salt Pond, striped and colorful. Not much scares me underwater, but this was a shocker We called the local St.John dive shop and they were well aware of it and thanked me. She said they were not aggressive but a little poisonous.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: sail2wind] #131634
06/02/2017 08:37 PM
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Ya never know...
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Ya never know...
Shhhhh...if the BVI gov't hears about this they will tax it.


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Re: Sea Snake [Re: sail2wind] #131635
06/02/2017 11:30 PM
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A "little poisonous"??

Re: Sea Snake [Re: RickinAtlanta] #131636
06/03/2017 12:18 AM
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she said probably not deadly, <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" /> I did not go close enough to find out, my wife will attest, not an eel. However I have dove and snorkeled Salt Pond several times since.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: sail2wind] #131637
06/03/2017 10:38 AM
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Without a doubt we saw a sea snake at Salt Pond, striped and colorful. Not much scares me underwater, but this was a shocker We called the local St.John dive shop and they were well aware of it and thanked me. She said they were not aggressive but a little poisonous.

Again, NO sea snakes in the Caribbean. The dive shop is either wrong or was pulling your leg.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: casailor53] #131638
06/03/2017 10:55 AM
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Remember there were no Lion fish in the Atlantic
Now they're all over the place.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: sail2wind] #131639
06/03/2017 11:03 AM
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Without a doubt we saw a sea snake at Salt Pond, striped and colorful. Not much scares me underwater, but this was a shocker We called the local St.John dive shop and they were well aware of it and thanked me. She said they were not aggressive but a little poisonous.

And according to this site, which I believe is run by ictheologists, the sharp tail eel can mimic the stripes of a sea snake.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: casailor53] #131640
06/03/2017 12:14 PM
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There was no way she was pulling my leg, we had a serious conversation. She even to be aware of the situation a Salt Pond

Re: Sea Snake [Re: sail2wind] #131641
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There also are Orcas in the Caribbean.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: sail445] #131642
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And sea lions.
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Re: Sea Snake [Re: wmangum] #131643
06/06/2017 02:31 PM
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Did you report it? Supposedly, Caribbean monk seals are considered extinct, with the last confirmed sighting in 1952. You could be a footnote in "The Annals of Marine Mammals"!

Re: Sea Snake [Re: casailor53] #131644
06/06/2017 06:23 PM
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It was not a monk seal. It was a sea lion.


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Re: Sea Snake [Re: wmangum] #131645
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The day I see a Polar bear I'm out of here <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />

Re: Sea Snake [Re: wmangum] #131646
06/07/2017 10:18 AM
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It was not a monk seal. It was a sea lion.

Curious how you could tell. Is there a pic you didn't post that shows ear flaps? Could it have been an escapee from Coral World in STT? I can't find anything about sea lions naturally occurring in the Caribbean. Thanks.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: casailor53] #131647
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Re: Sea Snake [Re: casailor53] #131648
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It was not a monk seal. It was a sea lion.

Curious how you could tell. Is there a pic you didn't post that shows ear flaps? Could it have been an escapee from Coral World in STT? I can't find anything about sea lions naturally occurring in the Caribbean. Thanks.


This album might have a few pictures.


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Re: Sea Snake [Re: sail445] #131649
06/07/2017 10:59 AM
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I had read something similar to that and it really doesn't help based on the pics posted. I was hoping for more from Walker, who may have heard them bark (or not), seen the feet, seen ear flaps (or not), etc. If you really want to demo your google skills, find me something that says they are in the Caribbean (other than captive ones). Admittedly, my google skills suck! Thanks

Re: Sea Snake [Re: casailor53] #131650
06/07/2017 11:37 AM
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If I recall, he escaped from Puerto Rico. I don't remember the details.


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Re: Sea Snake [Re: casailor53] #131651
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It was obvious you couldn't tell by looking at the pictures if it was a Seal or a Sea lion.
So I did a simple google search which goes into detail what the differences are.
I'm sure if we can see a picture of it moving on the beach we will know immediately.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: sail445] #131652
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I just enhanced Mangums second photo on my phone and the ear is a plain hole making it a Seal instead of a hole with a flap that would make it a Sea Lion.
I enhanced it by making it as light as possible and converted it to Tonal.

Re: Sea Snake [Re: sail445] #131653
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Wrong.

It was a Sea Lion. It escaped from an aquatic park in the DR. It was subsequently captured (Anguilla or St. Martin) and returned.


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Re: Sea Snake [Re: wmangum] #131654
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Sounds good!

Re: Sea Snake [Re: sail445] #131655
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The little fellow really gets around <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" />

Re: Sea Snake [Re: sail445] #131657
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It could be a European swallow. It is reported that two of them can carry a coconut if they work as a team. (African swallows are non-migratory)

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Re: Sea Snake [Re: ggffrr11] #131658
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Amazing timing that I got the attached link in an e-mail this morning.

Uncommon Carribean

Re: Sea Snake [Re: RickinAtlanta] #131659
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We saw a very similar snake, tannish white pencil thin about a foot and a 1/2 long while anchored at white bay, guana island. It was at night and while we were using a spotlight to see the tarpon, it swam right by.


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