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Seaborne acquired
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04/27/2018 11:16 AM
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TomGarvey
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Sorry if I missed a previous discussion on this. I'm wondering what folks think about what effect this will have on flights to EIS. Silver Airways Acquires Seaborne
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Re: Seaborne acquired
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05/02/2018 12:47 PM
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I don't know about Seaborne, but we just flew out of St. Thomas, on a Saturday, and there were no lines what so ever. Walked into Customs and there were 4 officers waiting for the next person. No line at TSA, walked right through.
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Re: Seaborne acquired
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05/02/2018 06:53 PM
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Orange...when I was there last month the lines at STT were not bad either really. Its just the need to be there so far in advance on American Airlines...3 hours. For me flying though STT makes it a 12 hour day of travel at the least back home. Flying out of Tortola its only about 8. Thought I would give it a shot Its states check-in 3 hours prior. You can check in uptown 24 hours in advance with AA.com App. Physically be there and bags checked is 90 minutes prior. Here is their issued statement: The minimum times for check-in and baggage check have changed for St. Thomas (STT): For check-in: 180 minutes (3 hours) prior to departure For boarding passes or to check bags: 90 minutes prior to departure
Cruising the local waters here in SC and GA. Love the BVIs and miss the Tradewinds!
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Re: Seaborne acquired
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06/21/2019 03:46 PM
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the first of this June, we flew out of STT...to MIA ...to LAX via American Airlines. ( after two weeks of bare boat sailing the BVI .)
We were told to be there THREE HOURS EARLY........at STT for the flights to MIA , an on to LAX.
We did exactly that, and the lines were horrendous....never in all my flying world wide have I witnessed such long, long waits......And I mean bloody long .
Fist was checking in at the check in desk. We were checking the baggage through., at AA....just two familes ahead of us, with tons of luggage, That took a long time. There was just two of us out check in was fairly quick..
Next was Customs and Immigration, more long winding line, after winding lines. More long , long waits. We were flying American.
Then baggage ( another long line ) .....we to tote or roll our bags with us, and finally came to where we could load them on a conveyor
Then TSA......more long lines.
I am glad we planned on three hours, since after all that chaos of two hours plus we made with all speed to the terminal bar and found the last two empty seats . Life was good, all was well. They were going to let me back into the mainland USA....
Now, here is the positive side of that debacle.....
We used to fly into EIS.....after an RON at Puerto Rico. We both are pilots and like flying on the twin cessnas, ( I usually talk with the capt, and he lets me ride in the right seat in the cockpit.) The flight was about 45 minutes to LIH.. Last time for that program was a few months pre Irma..about $ 1400.00 for the both of us round trip. That is a good amount of dinners, drinks, and good times. No more puerto rico, no more cape air.
This year, we decided to fly into St. Thomas from MIA, and take the ferry for $ 60.00 R/T. Easy stuff. . Running that savings of many yankee dollars thru my mind, it was easier to be relaxed with hassels of the STT Thomas line delays leaving St Thomas for he mainland..
That was just a couple of weeks ago,
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Re: Seaborne acquired
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06/21/2019 05:29 PM
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Flew May 2019 on Seaborne SJU to EIS round trip was $217 pp including departure tax. Seemed like a deal to me.Last year we did the STT and ferry routine. STT was exactly as Denny described.
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Re: Seaborne acquired
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Warren
FYI...
You are going to get an answer to your post of us being " FORCED INTO FLYING CAPE AIR " .
We researched most of the flights between SJU and EIS over the years.....and the complaints were numerous for every one of them EXCEPT CAPE AIR. . Back at that time CAPE AIR had excellent reviews and was not all that more expensive and we could trust them,. Plus we like flying in general aviation aircraft.
But, sadly, Cape Air doubled their price the last time we flew with them, and thus that also ended Cape Air for us. Hello , American to MIA to STT and Road Town Fast Ferry for the very first time.. Our choice,
The other thing we liked about Cape Air,and for years, besides always on time, it was also fun flying for us.,,,,,,,,
Why would flying Cape Air be fun ? .
I flew for professionally for nearly 40 years , as a flight instructor, charter pilot, corporate pilot, and Air Combat Instructor ( 5 and 6 G dog Fights). Erica is private pilot and aerobatic pilot, and in choosing Cape Air I would talk with the Capt, and get to sit up in the cockpit , and it was great experiencing some of the old feelings of the flying days. .No stick time, but still it felt great and brought back past memories.
So, Cape Air was FUN for me .. It was also fun for Erica, as she had her camera out taking photos, as passenger were in single seats , all window seats.
So, Warren, answer up, or are you NORAD, are you a commercial pilot, and have 6500 hrs of professional flying , including 17 years, and 2500 missions as Air Combat Instructor ? . Erica about 640 hrs as a private pilot and 200 of that as an aerobatic pilot.
As to your post.
No one forces us into anything, And, I mean anything. We have charted our own courses in life, and still are.
Everything that we have accomplished or done in life took dedication, study, and experience, and we loved it. Both of our careers were dedicated to actually helping people, to stay alive in alien envionments for me, with instructing flying, as well as sailing and motor vessels. For Erica, she a now retired M.D. ( and a pilot, and excellent sailor, and sky diver, and Scuba Diver PADI cert, advanced up thru rescue diver ) Plus more.
There, you have my reply to your question.
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Re: Seaborne acquired
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06/24/2019 07:22 PM
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Captaindennyj,
Thank you for your very in-depth response.
Air sunshine also flies the same route and same aircraft as Cape air.
I have flown with Cape air many times. Even sitting in the co-pilot seat.
I have flow on air sunshine many times as well.
Air sunshine was less expensive than Cape air even when the ticket books were available.
We had a very poor and frustrating time on Cape air years ago. I posted here about my experience. Cape air apologized for what took place.
In fact, Cape air is the only carrier between sju and eis that I ever had trouble with.
Im not saying that cape air is bad, that would be wrong. They all have their issues.
What I am saying is if you want to fly on a 402, check out the alternatives.
I have had on time departures from seaborne, intercarribean air sunshine and Cape air. I have had late arrivals on air sunshine cape air and intercarribean.
We allow enough connection time for problems to be addressed.
Any airline can fail to bring your luggage. Even the ferry sometimes has trouble
What I do fail to understand is the connection between your pilot and instructor skills and the reason why you could only fly on Cape air.
I get it that you prefer the aircraft where you see the cockpit and the path in front. It much better than on the seaborne or intercarribean planes.
See the pm I sent to you.
Last edited by warren460; 06/24/2019 07:38 PM.
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