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Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: kim] #271797
12/23/2021 07:31 AM
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Not much fun playing the " change the rules/move the goalposts" game, is it?

Good luck.

A very good friend (my age) was advised against the booster by his doctor just this week. As of now, according to the CDC "fully vaccinated" does not require having a booster.


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Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: ruralcarrier] #271799
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Originally Posted by ruralcarrier
Not much fun playing the " change the rules/move the goalposts" game, is it?

Good luck.

A very good friend (my age) was advised against the booster by his doctor just this week. As of now, according to the CDC "fully vaccinated" does not require having a booster.


Exactly!!!! This is wrong on so many levels. Especially when they can’t get their population to get vaxxed. Curious how they will handle all those celebs coming back from St Barths on 1/1 and 1/2

And what about those flying in 1/2? Double vaxxed but need a 24 hour test or 48 per. Basically impossible.

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Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: SXMScubaman] #271800
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Originally Posted by SXMScubaman
"Posting changes via Facebook is a pi$$ poor way to run a country and a government."
It's also on their official site too.


I couldn't find it....it was "updated" a couple of days ago but it looks the same to me. Still says this:

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You are considered fully vaccinated with an accepted vaccine :
2 weeks after the second dose in a 2-dose series, such as the Pfizer, Moderna, Astrazeneca, Sinopharm, Sinovac/Coronavac and Covishield vaccines, or
2 weeks after a single-dose vaccine, such as Johnson & Johnson/Janssen vaccine, or
2 weeks after the second dose in a 2-dose series combination of a single dose Pfizer or Moderna with a single dose Astra Zeneca, or
2 weeks after a single-dose of vaccine after a confirmed COVID-19 infection within 6 months before the vaccination (to be stated on proof of vaccination in absence of a digital COVID-19 infection certificate).


https://stmaartenehas.com/travel-requirements/

..and, as mentioned, the Facebook link doesn't work (I am on Facebook) so I will hold back on informing my tennis group of the change until I can see it officially in print ...and not a Facebook post


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Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: kim] #271802
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You have to have a PCR test 48 hours before the flight or an antigen test 24 before the the flight and this would meet the requirements and by taking the antigen test he would have his test results in short order. If he answers the first question yes followed by no or yes for the other questions than he qualifies. Not sure why you think he wouldn't qualify? If he is flying the next day than the only possible answer to the question below is yes.


Are you seeking a test to prevent possible spread of COVID-19 for future travel or recreation (according to CDC guidelines)?
Yes. No



Not sure what time his flight is, but if it is a morning flight, you could test at noon, have your results by 1pm and have 20+ hours before the flight.

Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: boucharda] #271803
12/23/2021 08:51 AM
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until I can see it officially in print ...and not a Facebook post


Correct, how "official" is a facebook post?

A local restaurant we frequent was doing a holiday gift card giveaway via their facebook page. I entered and the next day I got a facebook message indicating I had won. Only problem was so did many others as their facebook page had been "cloned" and the only noticeable difference was an "apostrophe as in (')" between the two words of the name of the restaurant. A good example of how things can get messed up using social media for "official" announcements.


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Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: Carol_Hill] #271807
12/23/2021 09:54 AM
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The link is still dead but I went to the SXM News page on Facebook and found the announcement....still kinda lame that it is only there but here it is:

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** Travel requirements scheduled to change as of January 1st 2022; applicable for persons 18 years and up **
Minister of Public Health, Social Development and Labor (VSA) Omar Ottley hereby informs the public that, given the rapid worldwide spread of the Omicron variant, Sint Maarten will be implementing various protective measures.
With Omicron fast becoming the dominant variant in numerous countries, the following changes to Sint Maarten's entry protocols will go into effect as from Saturday January 1st 2022 for all incoming travelers to Sint Maarten.
Unvaccinated persons will require a 48 hour PCR test, while persons who received both doses of an approved COVID vaccine will require a 48 hour PCR test or a 24 hour antigen test. Persons who are 18 years and older and who have taken a booster shot will be able to enter Sint Maarten without a COVID-19 test.
Persons 17 years and younger who are eligible to take a COVID-19 vaccine can enter without a COVID-19 test once they have taken both doses of an approved COVID vaccine.

Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: boucharda] #271812
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The story is in the Daily Herald, unfortunately only (so far) in the full edition, not in the free links online.

It is referred to in today's editorial. Link

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Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: Carol_Hill] #271813
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It is doable to get a PCR test and travel to SXM next year but my concern is what if there is a spike of cases on SXM while I am there and they shut down the island again. I just don’t feel comfortable till this new variant plays out and the panic goes away.

Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: sxmmartini] #271816
12/23/2021 10:40 AM
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...and then the next variant will take over. Omicron was first found in So. Africa around a month ago and it went bonkers there BUT their cases are now on the decline (down 20% this week). There will probably be another variant to take its' place BUT, with that in mind, I have decided to live my life as best I can and not go into eternal hibernation....do the best I can to prevent the bad things from happening to me and live my life as normally as possible...(stretching the word "normal" a tad). I am not 20 years old ....my life is now and I will deal with it

States are having record number of positive cases right now so I guess we will see what a month brings...it comes down to you have to do what YOU feel reasonably comfortable with

Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: ruralcarrier] #271824
12/23/2021 12:28 PM
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"according to the CDC "fully vaccinated" does not require having a booster."
That doesn't matter entering SXM.

Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: Carol_Hill] #271825
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The release is on the Sint Smarten Government website. The link below will take you there.


Sint Maarten - updated Covid entry requirements

Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: SXMScubaman] #271826
12/23/2021 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SXMScubaman
"according to the CDC "fully vaccinated" does not require having a booster."
That doesn't matter entering SXM.

I am aware of that. I was making the point of ANOTHER moving of the goalposts. This crap is getting old.


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Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: bdeeley] #271827
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Thanks I was just getting ready to post that link. Was released yesterday. Same day as Facebook post.

Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: Carol_Hill] #271831
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Hasn't made it to the EHAS site yet

Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: boucharda] #271834
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Yes, anyone looking just at the EHAS website right now for travel after the first of the year will be seriously misled.


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Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: Carol_Hill] #271838
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It's the just flu folks........

Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: Carol_Hill] #271839
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Originally Posted by Carol_Hill
Yes, anyone looking just at the EHAS website right now for travel after the first of the year will be seriously misled.

Hopefully the EHAS site will update soon. Could cause some real problems for the uninformed.

Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: ruralcarrier] #271840
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If I did everything asked to enter SXM and had an approval through the EHAS for my travel dates, I want a guarantee that I have fulfilled the requirements during my stay and although requirements may change during my stay it would not be applicable to me because it changed after my approval.

Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: SXMBND] #271841
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sxmbound-no, it's not.


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Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: sxmmartini] #271842
12/23/2021 02:37 PM
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martini--If you are already on the island, if SXM changes it's ENTRY protocols after you are on island, obviously they won't apply to you. If the US changes it's entry protocols, that's a different question.


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Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: sxmmartini] #271843
12/23/2021 02:40 PM
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Should not affect you unless St Maarten enacts a new requirement for travelers already on island to adhere to. Not to say that couldn't happen.

Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: SXMScubaman] #271845
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And if the protocols (e.g. masking, physical distancing, entry restrictions to businesses or restaurants or even lockdowns) changed while you are on the island, they would apply to everyone on the island, visitors and residents alike. Just like anywhere else in the world. One of the risks of travel in the middle of a pandemic. If you want zero risk, then don't travel! Simple.

Re: Entry requirements for SXM changing again [Re: Carol_Hill] #271846
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I find it kinda ridiculous that China is on the SXM green list as a low risk no testing or vac needed country and they are initiating lockdowns because of the virus....makes perfect sense to me

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