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Close call at PJIA #272062
12/28/2021 11:20 PM
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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #272064
12/29/2021 12:44 AM
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30 passengers on an A-330..... where was it headed???

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMBND] #272066
12/29/2021 01:37 AM
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Orly airport

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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #272068
12/29/2021 08:17 AM
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Thank God, but if it was full, it could have had a different out come. The "DH" doesn't mention the cause of the blowout. I could never understand why there isn't screens in front of the turbines??? The pilot must have taken a page out of "Sullies" book !!


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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #272077
12/29/2021 09:31 AM
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I’m surprised we didn’t hear something. We are pretty close to the airport. Gracias a Dios everyone was fine.

Air Caraibes flies to France? Didn’t realize that.

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #272079
12/29/2021 09:57 AM
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Wow, scary. Glad it turned out OK.


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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: Colour1] #272105
12/29/2021 01:09 PM
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Not to discount the seriousness of the issue, but most modern jets are quite capable of flying with only one of two engines operating. It does create a whole bunch of potential issues, so the pilot should nevertheless be commended on a safe landing. They also don't give a cause yet for the blowout, whether birds (as in the US Airlines Sully case) or mechanical failure. That will have to be determined by the investigation. As to Sully, he lost both engines, so a whole different kettle of fish!

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #272130
12/29/2021 04:47 PM
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It was a serious issue, good thing that the plane was basically empty. The problem with Sxm is not so much the landing but the take off. Given the relative shortness of the runway and the proximity of the hills, loosing one engine during take off at full load of passangers, baggages and fuel, it could be a problem. Also do not forget that once a plane in Sxm takes off it must bank/veer to the right not having much support from the nose winds that actualy helps the lift of the plane. All good in Paradise!

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #272148
12/30/2021 08:30 AM
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Every take off we make in a commercial aircraft is planned for the possibility of an engine failure at liftoff. It is built into the take off performance computations and is something we train for every year in the simulator.
While it is far from a normal event, if handled correctly, it should not be a big deal.

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #272416
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For the aviation nerds here is the ATC comms from the incident:
VASAviation
Good job it didn't happen Sunday (yesterday, 2 Jan), things were a bit busy (or, "this is ridiculous" in the words, on air, of one tower controller during the morning).
Dave.

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #272448
01/04/2022 07:55 AM
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Very interesting link...thanks

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #273781
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Anyone know if the Air Caraïbes A330 flew out yet? Reason I ask is I see a Volga-Dnepr Airlines IL76 inbound from Porto this morning, wondering if it's bring a shiny new engine for the Air Caraïbes? Either way an IL76 will be an unusual sight at PJIA for any plane spotters at Maho Beach today.
F24 link: VDA5826
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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: CYOWDave] #273785
01/20/2022 09:01 AM
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Yes, Air Caribes is still here. They've been working on it, but seems with no luck.


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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #273786
01/20/2022 09:09 AM
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So, if you were a mechanic sent to SXM to fix an airplane, would you be in a hurry to get it done?😎

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: CYOWDave] #273792
01/20/2022 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CYOWDave
Anyone know if the Air Caraïbes A330 flew out yet? Reason I ask is I see a Volga-Dnepr Airlines IL76 inbound from Porto this morning, wondering if it's bring a shiny new engine for the Air Caraïbes? Either way an IL76 will be an unusual sight at PJIA for any plane spotters at Maho Beach today.
F24 link: VDA5826
Dave.



WOW - Thank you Dave! I love airplanes and will be watching from afar...

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #273794
01/20/2022 10:53 AM
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Just landed.


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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: Teresasxm] #273795
01/20/2022 11:00 AM
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Elaine: You're welcome, I was also watching virtually, very cool, looked like a bit of a crowd on the beach as well. I think I see the Caraïbes parked at the C1 ramp and the Russian has just taxyed in next to it.
Dave.

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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #273802
01/20/2022 11:29 AM
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Here's video. Although I believe the plane is named incorrectly

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=726676635165828


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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: BillandElaine] #273805
01/20/2022 11:33 AM
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Yes it's not the largest plane i.e SXM news lol.

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: BillandElaine] #273806
01/20/2022 11:38 AM
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Thanks! Cool video!


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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #273822
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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #273826
01/20/2022 03:54 PM
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Yup...cool video and both aircraft visible from SBR...installing it now

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #273961
01/22/2022 09:55 AM
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Looking at the PJIA webcams this morning and the IL76 seems to be getting ready for departure, don't see a scheduled time anywhere though.
Dave.

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #273965
01/22/2022 11:40 AM
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Driven by it a half a dozen times...... no way it's one of "largest airplanes in the world"$

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMBND] #273966
01/22/2022 11:43 AM
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Sitting on the other side of Air Caraibes facing the same direction...and...maybe just over half the size of the Air Caraibes A330

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMBND] #273967
01/22/2022 11:57 AM
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SXMBND--Per usual, the Daily Herald gets some things wrong. laugh


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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: Carol_Hill] #273978
01/22/2022 02:40 PM
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I think they are confusing it with the Russian Antonov cargo jet, the An-225, which is the largest cargo aircraft in the world. The Il-76 is barely in the top 15, so quite a bit smaller!

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #273986
01/22/2022 05:45 PM
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After quite some time Air Caraibes is getting ready to go home

Edit: hmmm....maybe it just moved to the west side of the airport



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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: boucharda] #273999
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Testing the engines now. Very loud!!!😳
Sounds like a plane taking off...forever!

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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #274062
01/24/2022 08:39 AM
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The IL76 is scheduled for a 9:00am local today departure to Santa Maria according to FlightRadar24, flt no VI5828.
Dave.

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #274069
01/24/2022 09:59 AM
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Just looked, still on ground?

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: the captain] #274081
01/24/2022 11:42 AM
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Left around an hour ago...blew quite a few Sunset visitors into the sea

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #274087
01/24/2022 12:35 PM
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Here it is leaving,,,

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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: boucharda] #274091
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Nice pic. People who are stupid enough to stand there get what they deserve.


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Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: Carol_Hill] #274100
01/24/2022 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Carol_Hill
Nice pic. People who are stupid enough to stand there get what they deserve.

👍

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #274103
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These engines direct their thrust slightly DOWN toward the beach so you REALLY don't want to stand behind this guy.

Funny my dad asked if I ever skydived. No interest but had to do SXM once....just once (aces to those to get that reference. wink )

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #274134
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Same with the od M/D aircraft that Copa use to fly into SXM.

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #274153
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Did the Air Caraibes Jet finally fly back home? I know they were testing the engine on the weekend and right now I can't seem to see it on the webcams.

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Long gone .

Re: Close call at PJIA [Re: SXMScubaman] #274163
01/25/2022 10:39 AM
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Sorry for the delay in posting the pic but we have been through a horror show of a return,,,,two days and still not home... but I digress

Shot from Sunset right before takeoff

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