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Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open #306926
10/06/2023 06:35 PM
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https://www.soualiganewsday.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=52237%3Atemporary-arrival-facility-at-airport-signals-the-last-phase&Itemid=450&fbclid=IwAR0CfnWvXmxnAHr0pXvxOgMXjVKA1x7WOs8qSXCn0F1LWWmCmUOzqZhzCeY

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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: SXMScubaman] #306930
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Here is a better link.

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10/07/2023 09:29 AM
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I'll be very interested to hear about peoples experiences when it opens.

Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: Leagle49] #306938
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Yes, me too. It shouldn't be long.


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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: SXMScubaman] #306952
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Here’s a video description of what to expect. It’s still a work-in-progress in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djbub57agZs

Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: SXMScubaman] #306969
10/07/2023 04:15 PM
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WOW. We arrive in 2 months and I sure hope there is more information before we arrive. We arrive in late November so maybe this will all be completed.


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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: Bahston] #306973
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The youtube video expresses concern about the small size of the temporary facility - they are already planning on having lines outside. I don't have a very good feeling about this - sure Hope I'm wrong!

Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: timnboston] #306974
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We arrive on a weekday and leave on a weekday so maybe it will not be too bad for us. The video talked about lines and that is never good.


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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: Carol_Hill] #306975
10/07/2023 06:21 PM
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Throwing good $$ at a problem never fixes it.


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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: SXMScubaman] #306992
10/08/2023 07:37 AM
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Queuing outside under an awning doesn't seem like ti's going to be a lot of fun. Baggage claim area seems small too.

Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: Leagle49] #306993
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Originally Posted by Leagle49
Queuing outside under an awning doesn't seem like ti's going to be a lot of fun. Baggage claim area seems small too.


Memories of the tents after Irma. Those awnings were tarps on poles, and they were torn and blowing in the wind. I'm hoping they learned from that experience, and have something more substantial this time.

Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: GaKaye] #306994
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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: SXMScubaman] #306996
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Maybe y’all should wait until airport complete before you come back!!!!😳🤷‍♂️

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Originally Posted by LoveSXM333
Maybe y’all should wait until airport complete before you come back!!!!😳🤷‍♂️

You do realize this has been a 6 year ordeal, lots of "delays", etc., mis-information, accusations....people are tired of it.


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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: SXMScubaman] #306998
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Indeed—- I have been there about 15 times since Irma .

Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: BillandElaine] #307001
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Definitely better than the post-Irma tents! As you know, nothing much can stop us from coming!!

Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: GaKaye] #307002
10/08/2023 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by GaKaye
Definitely better than the post-Irma tents! As you know, nothing much can stop us from coming!!

For sure. Same here.

Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: ruralcarrier] #307004
10/08/2023 12:39 PM
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YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!! They just can't stop pouring money down the drain instead of fixing the problem!! We'll be there in 10 days or so. Keep you and TTOL posted!


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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: SXMScubaman] #307025
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Queuing outside at the old airport was common. We all survived it.

Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: Bahston] #307026
10/08/2023 07:47 PM
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Bahston--sure, we survived it. But there is no reason to stand outside these days, in SXM. It's SIX years since Irma.

...not to say that people will be standing outside at this temporary facility.


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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: Bahston] #307027
10/08/2023 08:22 PM
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Thanks and I always love a constructive response on the hell that we as citizens of this Island on St.Maarten has to go through . And we, were suppose to live in the U.S but we lost our papers after visiting my late Brother 50 Birthday party in Florida i.e not far from Tiger Woods property , sa la vie . God is good . And our Brother last job was with Lockheed Martin , top , R.I.P .

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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: Leagle49] #307029
10/08/2023 09:43 PM
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Just counted I’ve been down 31 trips since Irma - maybe two of those trips the airport has been the same!!! I won’t get into the “issues” they have had, but each trip it’s been closer to being done. There are some very informative videos on YouTube. Prior to this airport we would wait out in an open air area to clear before getting bags - it was hot! We were spoiled with the new airport. First trip back 11/17 we cleared through a shed!!! Then the tents, remember baggage under the airport and waiting for flights under the airport. Can’t wait to see what is next!!!

Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: SXMScubaman] #307081
10/11/2023 10:03 AM
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According to the article, today will be the first day the TAF will be in use. Hope to hear some first hand experience about how well the facility accommodates the flow of passengers.

Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: BillS] #307083
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Yes, looking forward to some comments. Hopefully they will say it's no big deal, not much difference.


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We arrive next Monday, so looking forward to any reports of those arriving sooner.


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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: SXMScubaman] #307096
10/11/2023 03:05 PM
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A friend in an SXM Facebook group arrived today and posted this:

New immigration building opened today. The first flight was from JFK. It's fairly small with a small baggage carousel, but very well air-conditioned. The covered walkway concrete around the posts was poured this morning and is still wet.

He also posted pictures, and I'm waiting to hear if it's ok with him if I post them here.


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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: jazzgal] #307097
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I saw those pictures on the post too. Jet Blue flight.

Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: SXMScubaman] #307100
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Pictures of temp arrival hall from this morning.

Attached Files pjia 1.jpgpjia 2.jpgpjia 3.jpgpjia 4.jpg

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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: jazzgal] #307101
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Thanks for posting and thanks to the original poster.


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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: SXMScubaman] #307102
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He did say that not everyone from his flight fit into the hall. Last of second bus and remainder on third bus didn't fit. He said he was in and out in ten minutes. But if several planes arrive at same time . . . .


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Arrived today. This new arrival area is totally ridiculous and NOT GOING TO WORK with high season coming. It’s just too small and was full shoulder to shoulder crowded with just one flight passengers. Why in the world did they make this switch just a few months before high season? Seems like more incompetence and more bad planning. Chaotic mess on a Thursday. Can you imagine what it’s gonna be like on Saturday and Sunday? A LOT of hot mad people will be standing outside waiting to get into the immigration area. Not a good way to start a vacation. IMO

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Sounds like you didn't like it.

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If it can't handle the arrival of just one plane, it is going to be a mess. Tiy hit the nail on the head.


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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: foreversxm] #307121
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Our JB flight was changed from early Saturday morning to 9:30am. I am not looking forward to this mess. There has to be more than one flight at that time we arrive!! I don't get it, whoever is in charge has not a clue how to spend the money! Why build this, why NOT fix the broken down airport thats there!! IMHO, they should have bulldozed it down, start from scratch! Brought in a company like Turner construction from NYC. They would have it up and running under one year!! This?? This is an insult!!


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Re: Temporary arrival facility at PJIA to open [Re: SXMScubaman] #307127
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This airport mess is all about more greed, more corruption and more incompetence! They had that HUGE airport building but they couldn't find enough room so that HAD to build another building? Sounds like someone at the airport has a friend selling temporary buildings. It's the money and those airport and gov officials are laughing all the way to the bank at the happy go lucky SXM taxpayers and Dutch gov. Hopefully I am wrong but I heard that small little building is what they will use all through high season....6 months. And if they had to do this why not in April instead of 2 months before high season. ok gov let the excuses begin.. Such a Joke. I worried about my business friends on the Island having to suffer even more because that That little building is a joke. People will be standing outside in HOT weather for way too long. Yesterday it took my friend that come on Spirt 2 hours to get out of there. Small little baggage carrousel. This needs to be taken care of now not in December. Hopefully enough people will SCREAM and SHOUT and someone will do something to really improve things rather than make it worse. Other than that everything's great. smile

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foreversxm, I think plenty of people have been screaming and shouting since a year after Irma. It didn't do much then.

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Try and enjoy your time there. You can't do anything about that situation so let it slide.

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Can’t imagine flying Spirit AND having to put up with the temporary arrival facility. That’s just too much.

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Tomorrow being Saturday will be a very rough day for all of us.

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Originally Posted by lcote
foreversxm, I think plenty of people have been screaming and shouting since a year after Irma. It didn't do much then.


Definitely agree but I still think if enough people complain something might get a least a little better. It’s really unbelievable anyone would think that temp building would be even close to being adequate. So many serious issues for arriving passengers. First thing they need to do is at least triple the staff of immigration officials and baggage handlers to speed up the process , and get people out there asap because it’s gonna be a huge back up.

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