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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
[Re: bonefish]
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02/07/2015 02:12 PM
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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
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02/07/2015 02:31 PM
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PDF C&I forms
Internet/telephone C&I check-in/check-out and fishing license
Cheers, RickG
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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
[Re: sail2wind]
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02/07/2015 06:33 PM
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sail2wind said: BVI and USVI C&I talking would be nice. Most of the Caribbean you can check in on phone or internet. That's just crazy!!! Many of those cheerful C&I employees would be unemployed. A zillion trees would be saved and more USVI misfits would clear in every time if it was easy. Keep the paperwork confusing for first time visitors. Keep the C&I people busy stamping multi-page forms!! :and above all, keep adding fees and taxes for those of us that follow the rules!!! grin:
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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
[Re: sail445]
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sail445 said:Kimber you're 100% correct... The only reason I and millions of others go again and again to the BVI's is to see the smiles and gratitude of those fine C&I People--OOPS! sorry I meant Officials. Clearing in with C&I in West End reminds me of the Soup Nazi episode on Seinfeld.
Life's short - sail more!
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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
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02/07/2015 09:37 PM
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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
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02/08/2015 01:25 PM
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caribbeangirl13 said: Charter companies offering a pick up from STT on the boat you are chartering and the sail back to BVIs is your check out sail. You can already get that. Hire a one day skipper with us and you can drop him in Soper's. You even get to drop the boat off ten minutes from the airport on your return. Jay
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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
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02/08/2015 04:21 PM
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You can already get that. Hire a one day skipper with us and you can drop him in Soper's. You even get to drop the boat off ten minutes from the airport on your return.
Jay [/quote]
OK, going to have to check out chartering from STT! Thanks Jay.
Sue s/v Ripple Leopard 40
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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
[Re: caribbeangirl13]
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02/08/2015 05:42 PM
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Jay,
Does CYOA ever compromise on allowing their boats to go to White Bay? I see that you can fill out a form that allows you to go to Anegada but don't see anything about White Bay.
Sue s/v Ripple Leopard 40
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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
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02/08/2015 06:15 PM
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caribbeangirl13 said: Jay,
Does CYOA ever compromise on allowing their boats to go to White Bay? I see that you can fill out a form that allows you to go to Anegada but don't see anything about White Bay. No the risk is to great and getting worse every year. Jay
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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
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02/08/2015 07:42 PM
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CaptainJay said: [quote]caribbeangirl13 said: Jay,
Does CYOA ever compromise on allowing their boats to go to White Bay? I see that you can fill out a form that allows you to go to Anegada but don't see anything about White Bay. No the risk is to great and getting worse every year. Jay, you hit the nail on the head. For the safety of the charterers they should eliminate it as an overnight anchorage. As for Anegada, it has never been a dangerous trip but charterers were told to stay away because there was an hour or so without seeing land then when GPS came into the picture it became part of the circuit
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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
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sail2wind said: great company, very well maintained by Jay and his staff, and located in Frenchtown 5 minutes to the airport Well said for a guy who sips rum with his pinky out from a rusted coffee can. I have to agree, if I were to buy a boat for charter it would be with CYOA or Sail Caribe
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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
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02/08/2015 08:48 PM
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Can someone explain to me why White Bay is so dangerous or maybe tell of a negative experience you have had? I did see the pictures of Mr. Bill on the beach but thinking that could happen anywhere if you had a faulty mooring. Sorry to sound stupid but my family and I have spent many overnights there starting back in the 70's/80's when we lived in the Caribbean to today and never had a problem. Nor have we heard of friends who have had problems. Just curious.
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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
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02/08/2015 09:49 PM
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caribbeangirl13 said: Can someone explain to me why White Bay is so dangerous or maybe tell of a negative experience you have had? I did see the pictures of Mr. Bill on the beach but thinking that could happen anywhere if you had a faulty mooring. Sorry to sound stupid but my family and I have spent many overnights there starting back in the 70's/80's when we lived in the Caribbean to today and never had a problem. Nor have we heard of friends who have had problems. Just curious. Sorry that we have derailed the OP's thread. There are several things combined that make White Bay high risk for damage. First off it's a very shallow anchorage with very little room between the reef and the beach. It also has poor holding in a large portion. Hard bottom with a light layer of sand over it. It also is poorly marked at the entrances. The reef is routinely run over in broad daylight. Spend the night there and have a problem with your set getting out will be even worse. North swells, it is very susceptible to wrap around north swells. When this happens the surge pulls your boat forward on the waves changing the angle of the scope on your set. Or if your on one of the poorly installed moorings it causes the boat to go forward and pull straight up on the sand screw. This is what put Mr Bill on the beach. The single screw was still attached to the boat when it went up on the beach. Overcrowded, you can be the best in the world at anchoring your vessel the people on either side of you won't be. Park your boat in Great Harbor and dinghy over it's more fun if your not looking over your shoulder from the bar every five minutes to see who anchored on top of your set or to check to see if your dragging. Plus your a lot less likely to get hit by some one else trying to get in or out after happy hour. Jay
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Re: What's on your BVI "Wish List" ?
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02/09/2015 04:09 AM
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White Bay for me just didn't seem right. Too close to shore and to the reef. We did it once years ago but I had the feeling we'd never go back. The "what ifs" just made me very uncomfortable (swell, backwinding, night escape). Now Jay has put some numbers on that and I agree.
We've been back winded in Cam and Lee bay when we were too close to shore or the reef. We've been put in danger when someone else anchored too close for comfort and we've had out anchor come loose at night when the the holding was good and I backed down on the anchor and set adrift at night requiring us to reposition.
I've not used CYOA yet but hope to some day - not worried about the boats or the service, but usually there are just the two of us and their rules require a second captain and two experienced crew to go to SVIs or St Croix. My feeling has always been their boats, their rules even if I don't completely agree. But on White Bay overnight, I get it.
Life involves risks, take some prudent ones (NOT with the BVI ferries)!
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