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Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island #78781
12/17/2015 08:00 PM
12/17/2015 08:00 PM
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Saint Thomas, USVI
CaptainJay Offline OP
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We where out sailing this weekend for my wife's birthday. As we where sailing past Cooper on Saturday a boat called Pan Pan Pan hailing Cooper Island. They wanted a dinner reservation.

Just when I thought I had seen and heard everything in de Islands.

Jay

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Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: CaptainJay] #78782
12/17/2015 08:26 PM
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WOW. Who would use an international call for distress for a joke?!!!

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: vytis104] #78783
12/17/2015 08:28 PM
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not cool

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: BEERMAN] #78784
12/17/2015 08:47 PM
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Totally inappropriate.

Some people will abuse everything. I'm hoping the restaurant didn't provide a reservation.

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: Annoddddd] #78785
12/17/2015 10:34 PM
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I suppose it could be that they just didn't know what the hell they were doing.

Which still is not cool.

Dan

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: DanS] #78786
12/18/2015 12:46 AM
12/18/2015 12:46 AM
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USVI
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Well maybe they thought " hey they cook in pans right?"

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: LocalSailor] #78787
12/18/2015 08:01 AM
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Really hungry but not starving to death, perhaps they use the correct terms!

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: Annoddddd] #78788
12/18/2015 09:46 AM
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Annoddddd said:
Some people will abuse everything. I'm hoping the restaurant didn't provide a reservation.

Same here. Were I running the radio at Cooper Island I probably would have responded with something like, "We have notified the authorities of your distress situation. They should be contacting you soon."

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: denverd0n] #78789
12/18/2015 04:06 PM
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denverd0n said:
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Annoddddd said:
Some people will abuse everything. I'm hoping the restaurant didn't provide a reservation.

Same here. Were I running the radio at Cooper Island I probably would have responded with something like, "We have notified the authorities of your distress situation. They should be contacting you soon."

I doubt that anyone answering the radio at Cooper knows the ins and outs of mayday/pan-pan/securite.

CaptainJay - did you see the name "Pan Pan Pan" on a vessel in the vicinity? Assuming the boat was USCG documented, I'm a little surprised that the Coast Guard would allow a vessel that name. And if it was in charter, I would hope that the charter company would have a problem with the name as well.

Also, when you make a distress signal, be it, mayday, pan-pan or securite, you repeat it three times. So the correct usage in this case would be "pan-pan, pan-pan, pan-pan, this is the vessel..."

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: casailor53] #78790
12/19/2015 03:05 PM
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Maybe they were on a life raft and were starving. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/jester.gif" alt="" />

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: sail445] #78791
12/19/2015 11:18 PM
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One night in Miami "Pan Pan, yes this is a Pan Pan" "I'm tied to the xx bridge and too drunk to go any further and need assistance" I am sure he received plenty of assistance.

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: Jccarr] #78792
12/20/2015 02:01 AM
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Pan Pan is no call of distress. Only a note of urgency that may lead to distress. Pan Pan should mean I have an issue that may get worse; at this time I believe I have it under control on my boat. With clear details of the jeopardy. This skipper shared his situation. "Short one table at Cooper". Calling Pan Pan to eat soon during cocktail hour near Cooper Island is certainly rude and poor form. The same would be true with the bars and eateries encouraging the use of the Channel 16 for dinner and hospitality arrangement in the first place.

While we are throwing rocks here. The first sinner is Cooper who encourages Channel 16 for non maritime traffic. Abuse or poor use of Channel 16 for non maritime communications is the danger. If you ever use Channel 16 for dinner reservations you have no grounds to call anyone out here. Many just over the horizon are distracted and falsely alerted by those garbled dinner calls.

To be clear General calls, signals, or messages on channel 16 are never acceptable. The rule are montor 16 24/7 and only transmit on 16 when you have a maritime need that must me shared.

How many follow this rule on your charter?

"Maintain your watch. Whenever your boat is underway, the radio must be turned on and be tuned to Channel 16".

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: sail445] #78793
12/20/2015 10:17 AM
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Friend of mine named his boat Hay Day...USCG told him to change it...He should call it Dumb A**!!


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Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: jmon] #78794
12/21/2015 12:35 AM
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It always amazes me that ANYONE would prefer to conduct business on the VHF radio, when cell service is cheap, private and easy to use. I'm not sure why folks still hail restaurants, marinas, taxis and the like on VHF...when those same people wouldn't be caught dead without their smart phones. I'm thinkin' that this is really 'Barney Fife -ism'.

Seriously, kids, just use your phone.

I'm trying to think of my choice for silliest use of Channel 16...and I think that the winner goes to the folks hailing the 'Ginger Island Yacht Club'. Kudos, amigos.

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: YachtReprise] #78795
12/21/2015 12:44 AM
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The cel phone is fine if you have their number.
The VHF works fine otherwise.

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: sail445] #78796
12/21/2015 09:10 AM
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Rincón PR
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The cel phone is fine if you have their number.
The VHF works fine otherwise.

They're in the various guidebooks, and charter company's have their three ring binder (or whatever) that generally lists phone numbers.

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: casailor53] #78797
12/21/2015 10:40 AM
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Not everyone's cell phone works every where in the BVI's.


Love sailing the BVI's with friends.
Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: casailor53] #78798
12/21/2015 11:17 AM
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Yes you could look up the numbers or just hail them on the VHF.
If the music is blaring the VHF is the ticket.

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: sail445] #78799
12/21/2015 12:45 PM
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unlocked phones work with a Lime sim card, easiest way to call in BVI

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: sail2wind] #78800
12/21/2015 01:18 PM
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All or at least most boats have a marine radio. It seems pretty simple to hail on 16 and converse on another channel. I don't know about the rest of you but when I go on vacation the last thing I want is a cell phone, and all the hassle of trying to find the right combination of getting it to work in the BVI.

Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: WayneC] #78801
12/21/2015 05:48 PM
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Re: Pan Pan Pan at Cooper Island [Re: WayneC] #78802
12/21/2015 08:26 PM
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Wayne, I couldn't agree more.


Jim
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