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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
[Re: StormJib]
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01/04/2017 11:39 PM
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My view is to keep the ligh on, pointed forward and outside of the dinghy. It is likely that the dinghy will not have running lights. If your lights are off, no other boats, especially faster boats will not be able to see you. People have been killed in dinghies running invisible. Also, the tubes usually get damp with the evening condensation. So you might want to dry where you will sit before you get wet,
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
[Re: StormJib]
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01/04/2017 11:50 PM
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StormJib said: If you can see that flashlight you are killing your night vision. The lights are best left OFF. There is a reason real boats, yachts, and ships do not have headlights. Yes... don't hold the flashlight in a manner that impacts your night vision. But sorry SJ, I can't agree with the rest of your advice. On many nights there is no way to safely see unused mooring balls and pendants without a light. Furthermore, if you are in a busy anchorage like The Bight, you run the risk of being hit by a powerboat if they cannot see you. Finally, lighting is required on any boat with a motor.
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/05/2017 12:19 AM
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I bought two LED flashlights, the cheap ones that float and have a whistle. One red and one green. They work pretty good on my dinghy both for reduced glare and boat orientation. Maybe try those.
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
[Re: StormJib]
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01/05/2017 09:03 AM
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StormJib said: Once you learn to use night vision and your ears. You will be safer with those lights off. At night in the anchorage it is always best to stay clear of the other boats using your night vision and your ears. Once anyone turns on a white flashlight you are blind and that is why you are missing the moorings and need the light to try and search for them in the dark. Yes, you can have the light ready to turn on to alert another boat only when you must. Once someone powers up a flashlight it will take you a long time to get any night vision back. The way to go is to keep a proper lookout with the handheld blinding lights off in a dinghy. I disagree. Maybe back in the day when you rowed your dinghy ashore it was safe without a light using your ears and night vision. Today there are other boats moving fast through the anchorages including ferries, go fast boats and dinghys. Yeah, your keen night vision might detect them while they are bearing down on you but without a light they can't see you and in the event of a collision you will be found negligent. Plus, the outboard from your dinghy makes it difficult to hear approaching boats. We put a person on the bow with a flashlight pointed forward scanning the anchorage in front of us.
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/05/2017 10:35 AM
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...and remember where you parked! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Grin.gif" alt="" /> Sounds silly, but in a big crowded mooring field at night, a lot of boats look the same. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/05/2017 11:34 AM
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psod said: I'm confident our captain will get us back and forth ok we were just questioning the logistics for dinner planning that's why I asked,,,looks like we will have lots of options for eating Can you elaborate to what info you're looking for then?
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/05/2017 12:51 PM
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If there is any shallow water between your mooring and the dock you may want to try a dry run during daylight hours, if possible, for familiarization. More than one prop has been unsuspectingly bent at night.
Tom
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
[Re: psod]
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01/05/2017 01:01 PM
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You will be able to communicate with most restaurants on the water in the BVI via VHF. Many will meet you at your boat after you settle in with a menu and special list.
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/05/2017 01:05 PM
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psod said: I was more or less just asking if it was practical to expect to dine ashore most nights,,,that would affect what food we would need to provision for,,, There certainly are some places you could overnight that don't have a bar/restaurant...but that's up to you. There is more than ample opportunity to do all meals ashore if that's what you want to do. I typically eat one or two breakfasts ashore, a couple of lunches, and all dinners. I miss a meal or three as well.
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/05/2017 01:11 PM
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Night vision aside and as mentioned before... any Power Driven Vessel (PVD) is require to have proper lighting. Up to the dingy captain to keep the lights out of their eyes <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" />
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/05/2017 01:15 PM
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My two cents: I understand most accidents seem to have a dinghy involved, perhaps as simple as one of the crew falling in the water when attempting to enter or exit the dinghy, or something more serious. Be ready to assist others, or accept help yourself. As was said, it can get a little wet, depending on the conditions in the anchorage, and don't forget you likely have sand on your feet/sandals when returning to your boat. Keep your captain happy by having a bucket of water on the scoop for washing your feet and shoes before entering the cockpit/salon.
Noel Hall "It is humbling indeed, to discover my own opinion is only correct less than 50% of the time." www.noelhall.com
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/05/2017 03:36 PM
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As others have pointed out, pretty easy to dine ashore in Feb in the BVIs. Checking the Virgin Islands Cruising Guide that will be aboard your charter boat will help you determine what dining options exist in the various overnight anchorages that you are planning to stay in. Note that once you leave Tortola, many of the smaller restaurants require you to make reservations prior to 4pm. Some will also ask that you select your meal options at the time of reservations to ensure that have your preferences on hand for the evening meals. I have seen on occasion that restaurants that have no evening reservations either don't open for dinner or close early. Reservations can be made by phone, in person or using the VHF. Enjoy your trip
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/05/2017 03:36 PM
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/05/2017 06:42 PM
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Eclipse said: As others have pointed out, pretty easy to dine ashore in Feb in the BVIs. Checking the Virgin Islands Cruising Guide that will be aboard your charter boat will help you determine what dining options exist in the various overnight anchorages that you are planning to stay in. Note that once you leave Tortola, many of the smaller restaurants require you to make reservations prior to 4pm. Some will also ask that you select your meal options at the time of reservations to ensure that have your preferences on hand for the evening meals. I have seen on occasion that restaurants that have no evening reservations either don't open for dinner or close early. Reservations can be made by phone, in person or using the VHF. Enjoy your trip Have never experienced that on Virgin Gorda.
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/05/2017 08:26 PM
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StormJib said: Night vision is a learned skill for many. Keep the light off and pay attention. If there is another boat approaching anywhere near your course only them should you briefly signal with a light. Before anyone turns on a light at least the helmsman should close or cover at least one eye. Many believe that is one of the purposes of the old pirate patch. To establish and maintain night vision. Just closing both eye for ten seconds can establish some night vision for some of us. You will never solve this on a keyboard. Each night sky and anchorage are different. I strongly suggest everyone learn to establish night vision and experience what you can actually see once you have your eyes properly adjusted. White lights are the worst robbing everyone on your boat and maybe those around you the ability to see. The danger is all the folks with white lights running around the harbors blind and many times drunk. Pay attention using your night vision and avoid them. Turn a light on only if you must signal them or have proper running lights were none of the lights coming from you boat are visible to the helm and lookout on your boat. Ron, One of your worst posts ever under your pseudonym Stormjib. Pirates wearing patches to avoid being blinded by flashlights? We should all wander around in the dark at home to get our night vision ready for a dinghy ride without flashlights? The bottom line is a boat under motor power at night is required to display a white light. I would like to see you explain to a jury how you conditioned your night vision in PA before your charter but still got run over by the ferry so it's not your fault you didn't display a light.
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/06/2017 04:32 AM
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We never have issues with lights and night vision. Person in front holds light out down toward the water ahead. Says "mooring ball 2 o'clock" as needed. Don't shine at other boats. Seems simple...
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/06/2017 11:56 AM
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NCSailor said:StormJib said: Night vision is a learned skill for many. Keep the light off and pay attention. If there is another boat approaching anywhere near your course only them should you briefly signal with a light. Before anyone turns on a light at least the helmsman should close or cover at least one eye. Many believe that is one of the purposes of the old pirate patch. To establish and maintain night vision. Just closing both eye for ten seconds can establish some night vision for some of us. You will never solve this on a keyboard. Each night sky and anchorage are different. I strongly suggest everyone learn to establish night vision and experience what you can actually see once you have your eyes properly adjusted. White lights are the worst robbing everyone on your boat and maybe those around you the ability to see. The danger is all the folks with white lights running around the harbors blind and many times drunk. Pay attention using your night vision and avoid them. Turn a light on only if you must signal them or have proper running lights were none of the lights coming from you boat are visible to the helm and lookout on your boat. Ron, One of your worst posts ever under your pseudonym Stormjib. Pirates wearing patches to avoid being blinded by flashlights? We should all wander around in the dark at home to get our night vision ready for a dinghy ride without flashlights? The bottom line is a boat under motor power at night is required to display a white light. I would like to see you explain to a jury how you conditioned your night vision in PA before your charter but still got run over by the ferry so it's not your fault you didn't display a light. Here is a little cut and paste for your entertainment. http://mentalfloss.com/article/52493/why-did-pirates-wear-eye-patchesDo not underestimate the importance of night vision on the water.
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Re: dinning on shore while anchored
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01/07/2017 05:43 PM
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snmhanson said: I won't comment on whether a light is needed or not. All I'll say is that we have unintentionally made more than one dinghy trip back to the boat at night without a flashlight. I wasn't worried much about us seeing things as we could see pretty well and we took it nice and slow. What I was worried about though is people not seeing us - especially the people that feel the need to run their dinghy full speed in the mooring field at night. So, my only advice, presuming you intend to use a light, is to make sure you don't forget it when you come in to shore since it will often be light when you are heading in but will turn dark while you are earring dinner. We have a backpack that always comes ashore. Contains handheld VHF, flashlight, bug spray, sunscreen, coozies, camera and ziploc bags for electronics. Phones go in the ziplocs before we leave the boat. We always remember the bag.
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