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Re: Still confused on tips
[Re: Jasperben]
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04/12/2017 09:26 PM
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101, how wonderful. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />
Be Happy! Simply because you deserve to be. 😁
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Re: Still confused on tips
[Re: weeks5051]
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04/12/2017 10:53 PM
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TY!! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Still confused on tips
[Re: Jasperben]
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04/13/2017 06:19 AM
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Service charge is one thing, a tip is another. Personally, I find it best to go with what you know to be facts, laws and common and acceptable practices on each side of the island and never ask. Once you ask, you open to door to be misled, lied to and sometimes almost coerced to make a poor decision.
J.D.
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Re: Still confused on tips
[Re: Bobcat]
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04/13/2017 07:44 PM
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Bobcat said: In regards to restaurants, if the service is included the menu will have clearly written on it "Service compris" meaning that service is included and it's usually 15% of the tab. Many restaurant menus on the French side do not state "Service compris" even though service is included. Bobcat said: So don't ask if the "tip" is included-ask instead if "service" is included. If yes, then no need to leave anything unless you are very happy and satisified with your server; in that case leave some loose change or so in addition. I wouldn't ask if either the tip or service is included. In France, service is included despite what the menu, bill, waiter, or manager say.
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Re: Still confused on tips
[Re: bksm]
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04/13/2017 07:50 PM
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bksm said:Bobcat said: In regards to restaurants, if the service is included the menu will have clearly written on it "Service compris" meaning that service is included and it's usually 15% of the tab. Many restaurant menus on the French side do not state "Service compris" even though service is included. Bobcat said: So don't ask if the "tip" is included-ask instead if "service" is included. If yes, then no need to leave anything unless you are very happy and satisified with your server; in that case leave some loose change or so in addition. I wouldn't ask if either the tip or service is included. In France, service is included despite what the menu, bill, waiter, or manager say. Exactly.
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Re: Still confused on tips
[Re: Bobcat]
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04/13/2017 08:29 PM
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I don't understand why this is so hard for so many to understand.
My approach to tipping these days is:
Dutch side - look at the check for an unaccounted 10 to 15% charge and if none, tip as you feel comfortable based on the service given.
French side - don't ask and they won't tell anything that might confuse you. IMHO, this is one time when, based on related French laws and customs, it is okay to ASSUME the bottom line menu price is all inclusive, and if service merits, a pour bois (sp?) is okay, too. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/handshake.gif" alt="" />
That's my story.....you know the rest!
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Re: Still confused on tips
[Re: Bobcat]
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04/14/2017 03:40 PM
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When on the Dutch side, if they don't have an extra fee added I usually add 20%. If they have a 10-15%, then I just give them that and that's what they get, unless I really liked the service, then I can add more if I want to. If they wouldn't add the charge I am a good tipper, (if I get decent service). We don't eat a lot on the French side but have decided this time we are going to eat many more meals over there. So, what everyone is saying is that the fee is already added and I don't have to to tip, but if I really like the service I can add some more if I so choose. This sounds fair enough for me. Really, it sounds like the French and Dutch sides are the same at most places. They just do it a little differently is all.
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