Traveltalkonline.com Forums


SXM Cruise Schedule TTOL Sponsors SXM Travel Calendar
Forum Statistics
Forums39
Topics35,572
Posts282,666
Members26,193
Most Online2,218
Jan 21st, 2020
Top Posters(30 Days)
Colour1 23
pat 22
cruzer 16
BEERMAN 14
MIDiver 13
Member Spotlight
Posts: 37
Joined: February 2005
Show All Member Profiles 
Today's Birthdays
No Birthdays
Who's Online Now
40 registered members (cwoody, JandIrene, turqwater, Calvin, dolfer, George1234, xrayman67, cbinparadise, skipdastraw, Fletch, SteveH, beachbum1313, WWII, Brian&Andi, duckfat, marybeth, lhbsurf, davidandsusannj, Kennys, SirRichard, VirginGordaResident, RickG, tradewinds, bigbobthib, boucharda, KirkB, Time Will Tell, IWIWSE, PATO, 11 invisible), 152 guests, and 77 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated #276717
02/28/2022 12:15 PM
02/28/2022 12:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
bdeeley Offline OP
Traveler
bdeeley  Offline OP
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
EHAS - link



*** The Most IMPORTANT Takeaway from the official pronouncement today is that they are no longer placing any time restraints from when you became fully vaccinated until you submit your EHAS application.

For example, if you completed both shots of your vaccination, of a 2 shot regimen (ie., Pfizer, Moderna, etc.) on 15 February 2021 and you did not receive a booster, it doesn't matter that it has been more than 1 year since your shots. You are considered fully vaccinated and can apply for admission to SXM without a Covid Test.


Last edited by bdeeley; 02/28/2022 03:54 PM.

SXMSMISADB
L13SDD&ESAD

[Linked Image]
SXM Sponsors
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276735
02/28/2022 02:18 PM
02/28/2022 02:18 PM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 79,045
Central Florida!
Carol_Hill Offline
Traveler
Carol_Hill  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 79,045
Central Florida!
OK, it finally makes sense. No need to test if fully vaccinated.

OK, now it has been corrected. It now says "Fully vaccinated only OR combined with a booster shot" more than 14 days old.

So, booster shots are technically irrelevant, so not sure why they are even still mentioned. But if you are 'fully vaccinated' you don't need to test at all. The definition of fully vaccinated is

"You are considered fully vaccinated with an accepted vaccine :
2 weeks after the second dose in a 2-dose series, such as the Pfizer, Moderna, Astrazeneca, Sinopharm, Sinovac/Coronavac and Covishield vaccines, or
2 weeks after a single-dose vaccine, such as Johnson & Johnson/Janssen vaccine, or
2 weeks after the second dose in a 2-dose series combination of a single dose Pfizer or Moderna with a single dose Astra Zeneca, or
2 weeks after a single-dose of vaccine after a confirmed COVID-19 infection within 6 months before the vaccination (to be stated on proof of vaccination in absence of a digital COVID-19 infection certificate).
the accepted Covid-19 vaccines are: Comirnaty (Pfizer), Spikevax (Moderna), Vaxzevria (Astrazeneca), Johnson & Johnson/Janssen, Covishield (Astrazeneca), Sinopharm and Sinovac/CoronaVac."


Carol Hill
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276737
02/28/2022 02:22 PM
02/28/2022 02:22 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
SXMScubaman Offline
Traveler
SXMScubaman  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
But it still doesn't clarify the hour window for Antigen test. Just the PCR showing 48hrs.
"rt-PCR and antigen test sample for the SARS-COV-2 virus must be obtained from naso-pharyngeal swab in adolescents and adults. An oro-pharygeal swab is accepted in case of children."

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: SXMScubaman] #276738
02/28/2022 02:27 PM
02/28/2022 02:27 PM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 79,045
Central Florida!
Carol_Hill Offline
Traveler
Carol_Hill  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 79,045
Central Florida!
So obviously they still need to correct it, to remove the reference to Antigen tests, if they are requiring only PCR tests, or clarify that timeframe. This really isn't rocket science, but they make it so.


Carol Hill
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: Carol_Hill] #276747
02/28/2022 04:10 PM
02/28/2022 04:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 16,752
Ohio
ruralcarrier Offline
Traveler
ruralcarrier  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 16,752
Ohio
Still rather confusing.


J.D.
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: ruralcarrier] #276752
02/28/2022 04:39 PM
02/28/2022 04:39 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
SXMScubaman Offline
Traveler
SXMScubaman  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
Originally Posted by ruralcarrier
Still rather confusing.

Agree

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: ruralcarrier] #276753
02/28/2022 04:56 PM
02/28/2022 04:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
bdeeley Offline OP
Traveler
bdeeley  Offline OP
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
Hey J.D.

If you are fully vaccinated, with or without a Booster shot, than you do not need a Covid test for submission of your EHAS application. Everything else pretty much stayed the same, such as, Mandatory EHAS Insurance and 5 day temperature monitoring.

Any clarification you need just reach out, I'll help.


SXMSMISADB
L13SDD&ESAD

[Linked Image]
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276754
02/28/2022 05:04 PM
02/28/2022 05:04 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
bdeeley Offline OP
Traveler
bdeeley  Offline OP
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
Per EHAS,

They are only accepting rt-PCR testing for those that are not fully vaccinated or boosted and need to submit a Covid Test with their EHAS Application.

A screen capture of correspondence is below.

Attached Files Screen Shot 2022-02-28 at 4.03.04 PM.png

SXMSMISADB
L13SDD&ESAD

[Linked Image]
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276755
02/28/2022 05:04 PM
02/28/2022 05:04 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
SXMScubaman Offline
Traveler
SXMScubaman  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
The confusing part is it only mentions the rt-PCR test needed within 48 hours for unvaccinated. No mention of 48 from last flight to SXM. Also in the notes below it mentions Antigen test but no time requirement. Still a few bugs to be worked out.

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276767
02/28/2022 08:06 PM
02/28/2022 08:06 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
bdeeley Offline OP
Traveler
bdeeley  Offline OP
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
The most confusing part of all of this seems to be so many incorrect posts that add unnecessarily to the confusion.


When the Minister of VSA first announced the proposed updated rules, there was a post that said, it was very clear to them, and that it required "two shots" in order to avoid Covid Testing. And the poster announced that if anyone had the single shot Johnson and Johnson vaccine that they would need the booster to meet the new guidelines. This post was wrong.

When there was talk about the publication of the new rules(updating EHAS) a poster said they do it the day of publication. Again, wrongly posted information, and on the two prior occasions EHAS did post their changes prior to date of the changes.

And today, there was a post that says "No mention from last flight to SXM" and on the prior rules, dated 19 January 2022, there was also no mention of that rule. Their words are "rt-PCR test within 48 hrs. before departure" and it is exactly the same both today1 March rules and for the 19 January rules.


Posts like these are possibly costing people their time, their money and their piece of mind by sowing the seeds of confusion.


SXMSMISADB
L13SDD&ESAD

[Linked Image]
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276768
02/28/2022 08:11 PM
02/28/2022 08:11 PM
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 16,752
Ohio
ruralcarrier Offline
Traveler
ruralcarrier  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 16,752
Ohio
Thanks for the clarification and correspondence with EHAS.


J.D.
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276770
02/28/2022 08:14 PM
02/28/2022 08:14 PM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 79,045
Central Florida!
Carol_Hill Offline
Traveler
Carol_Hill  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 79,045
Central Florida!
NO, frankly, the official language from EHAS is the big problem, as it is often NOT clear. Why does it currently even mention booster shots when they are currently irrelevant? And why does the official site talk about antigen tests at ALL, if they are not acceptable for any purpose??

As I said, this is not rocket science. Someone in government needs to READ what is on the site and make sure it is clear.


Carol Hill
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: Carol_Hill] #276774
02/28/2022 08:31 PM
02/28/2022 08:31 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
bdeeley Offline OP
Traveler
bdeeley  Offline OP
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
Booster shots are not irrelevant for the 10's of Millions of people that have received them and wonder if they are impacted by the rule changes. A booster shot is just not necessary NOW in order to make your application receive approval from EHAS.

Below is their current data diagram that covers the rules for entry to SXM. Pretty self-explanatory. Do they need to clean up a few issues with wording or notes on their requirements page, sure, but that doesn't interfere with the meaning of their new rules.

Attached Files Screen Shot 2022-02-28 at 7.21.23 PM.png

SXMSMISADB
L13SDD&ESAD

[Linked Image]
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276777
02/28/2022 08:49 PM
02/28/2022 08:49 PM
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 78
Adirondacks
Chinacat Offline
Traveler
Chinacat  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 78
Adirondacks
So I’ve read and reread the updated requirements. Does it clarify somewhere that your EHAS application can be submitted no more than 3 days prior to travel to SXM? Am I missing something or can it now be submitted anytime prior to travel?
Thanks!

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: Chinacat] #276780
02/28/2022 09:32 PM
02/28/2022 09:32 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
SXMScubaman Offline
Traveler
SXMScubaman  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
As stated by myself and others the site has a few wording inconsistencies and also now failed to stipulate that issue.

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: Chinacat] #276781
02/28/2022 09:33 PM
02/28/2022 09:33 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
bdeeley Offline OP
Traveler
bdeeley  Offline OP
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
It is not mentioned anywhere in EHAS travel requirements. But since the 3 day requirement is coded into the application form and not just the text of a webpage it is very unlikely that has changed, especially since those who still need a Covid test cannot complete the application until they have their test results(48 hour max)


SXMSMISADB
L13SDD&ESAD

[Linked Image]
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276782
02/28/2022 09:43 PM
02/28/2022 09:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 79,045
Central Florida!
Carol_Hill Offline
Traveler
Carol_Hill  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 79,045
Central Florida!
Booster shots are irrelevant for entry into SXM at present. So, they should not even be referred to in the rules. For ME, personally, we are boosted, for sure. But, when one is talking about entry into SXM, they are currently irrelevant.

Someone from the SXM government needs to sit down and READ the requirements on the official site, from top to bottom, to ensure that the requirements make sense, read together. If booster shots are irrelevant to admission to SXM, which apparently they are, then it should say that, or just not refer to them altogether. If the only test that is currently acceptable if you are not vaccinated, is a PCR test, just say that. Or if you can do an antigen test, say that, and say what the time period is for that. It really is pretty easy to just sit down and write what the current requirements are. Just READ the requirements, top to bottom, and make sure they make sense together.



Carol Hill
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: SXMScubaman] #276786
02/28/2022 10:08 PM
02/28/2022 10:08 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
bdeeley Offline OP
Traveler
bdeeley  Offline OP
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
They didn't "stipulate that issue" in previous updates to the Travel Requirements. That policy was dictated by the maximum amount of time you had between taking your test and your final flight departure time. And since they have lifted the requirement for testing, for those that were boosted, back in late October or early November, EHAS has not allowed more than 3 calendar days for submission.




EHAS Submisson:

Fully vaccinated and you can apply 3 calendar days before arrival (no Covid test required)

Less than Fully Vaccinated, rt-PCR Covid test required and your testing must occur 48 hours or less prior to departure (you cannot apply until you have test results, meaning you have less than a 48 hour window in which to submit your EHAS application.


SXMSMISADB
L13SDD&ESAD

[Linked Image]
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276787
02/28/2022 10:19 PM
02/28/2022 10:19 PM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 79,045
Central Florida!
Carol_Hill Offline
Traveler
Carol_Hill  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 79,045
Central Florida!
Again, why is an antigen test referred to at ALL in the requirements if an antigen test is not currently acceptable for entry??

Again, just read all the requirements together, and see that they all make sense, read together. Not rocket science.


Carol Hill
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276792
02/28/2022 11:52 PM
02/28/2022 11:52 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
bdeeley Offline OP
Traveler
bdeeley  Offline OP
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
additional clarification from EHAS. In my initial correspondence with EHAS, I poorly worded my question and I was concerned that it might be confusing. I sent an additional request to them about testing, better worded this time, and they have responded again.

Short answer from EHAS, only a PCR test that was initiated 48 prior to entry to SXM would be accepted. A screen capture of the correspondence is below.

Attached Files Screen Shot 2022-02-28 at 10.20.22 PM.png

SXMSMISADB
L13SDD&ESAD

[Linked Image]
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276794
03/01/2022 12:05 AM
03/01/2022 12:05 AM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
SXMScubaman Offline
Traveler
SXMScubaman  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
Would be nice if they just got their act together and published it correctly. duh

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: SXMScubaman] #276820
03/01/2022 10:08 AM
03/01/2022 10:08 AM
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 79,045
Central Florida!
Carol_Hill Offline
Traveler
Carol_Hill  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 79,045
Central Florida!
Looks like they took all reference to antigen tests out, but it still says you have to upload booster shots, which are irrelevant at this point. Hopefully no one gets denied approval because they aren't boosted.


Carol Hill
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276842
03/01/2022 12:13 PM
03/01/2022 12:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
SXMScubaman Offline
Traveler
SXMScubaman  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
Still no mention of not being able to apply till 72hrs/3 days before. Not having that included just adds to the stress when people don't know this and are denied because of applying to soon.

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: SXMScubaman] #276844
03/01/2022 12:54 PM
03/01/2022 12:54 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
bdeeley Offline OP
Traveler
bdeeley  Offline OP
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
There has never been a mention of when to apply.


SXMSMISADB
L13SDD&ESAD

[Linked Image]
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276850
03/01/2022 01:48 PM
03/01/2022 01:48 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
SXMScubaman Offline
Traveler
SXMScubaman  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
Incorrect. There have been mention of it when it went from 120hr/5days to 72hr in the past. Just not now.

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: Carol_Hill] #276871
03/01/2022 05:25 PM
03/01/2022 05:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
SXMScubaman Offline
Traveler
SXMScubaman  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
Looks like they still have the Antigen test mentioned in the main body.
"Keep the original rt-PCR or antigen test result and proof of vaccination always with you."

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276889
03/01/2022 08:36 PM
03/01/2022 08:36 PM
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 24
M
moi Offline
Traveler
moi  Offline
Traveler
M
Joined: Aug 2019
Posts: 24
OK. I hate to kick a dead horse and sound like I can't do 3rd grade math, but this is a big deal since we're going in April. We had our second Moderna on 02/09/2021 but no booster. So do I understand we won't need to be tested? That's how I read EHAS, too, but I don't want to trust my own interpretation since their site can be confusing. Thanks. I know this is a question from the department of redundancy department...but please humor me.

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: moi] #276892
03/01/2022 08:44 PM
03/01/2022 08:44 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
SXMScubaman Offline
Traveler
SXMScubaman  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
you should be fine. If in doubt email EHAS and ask directly.

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276971
03/02/2022 02:18 PM
03/02/2022 02:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 49
Kissimmee,Fl
L
Liliana Offline
Traveler
Liliana  Offline
Traveler
L
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 49
Kissimmee,Fl
A thought.

I've read about ehas and all the process/suspense and it seems they could save some time, money and stress by just checking Vax cards at the boarding gate. And if still worried, on landing. Make airlines fly unvaxed home.

The airlines won't make too many mistakes

Liliana

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: Liliana] #276972
03/02/2022 02:21 PM
03/02/2022 02:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
bdeeley Offline OP
Traveler
bdeeley  Offline OP
Traveler
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,263
United States of America
More importantly, EHAS provides SXM with $15 per person, that flies in to PJIA. That revenue stream is sorely needed by the government.

Last edited by bdeeley; 03/02/2022 03:06 PM.

SXMSMISADB
L13SDD&ESAD

[Linked Image]
Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: Liliana] #276978
03/02/2022 03:01 PM
03/02/2022 03:01 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
SXMScubaman Offline
Traveler
SXMScubaman  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
Not just a vax card, that are available on the black market, but unvaccinated show proof of negative covid PCR test at check-in.

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276980
03/02/2022 03:33 PM
03/02/2022 03:33 PM
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 52
L
Lucky13 Offline
Traveler
Lucky13  Offline
Traveler
L
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 52
None of this makes sense, since the vaccine doesn’t prevent infection or transmission. Hopefully SXM will come to their senses and remove all restrictions like the Nordic countries are doing.

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: bdeeley] #276981
03/02/2022 03:37 PM
03/02/2022 03:37 PM
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 49
Kissimmee,Fl
L
Liliana Offline
Traveler
Liliana  Offline
Traveler
L
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 49
Kissimmee,Fl


Maybe wishful thinking but we would like to see all of this virus crap disappear within next two months so we can buy more rum and t-shirts.

Liliana


Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: Liliana] #276985
03/02/2022 04:33 PM
03/02/2022 04:33 PM
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
SXMScubaman Offline
Traveler
SXMScubaman  Offline
Traveler
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 16,458
Auburn, WA
Originally Posted by Liliana


Maybe wishful thinking but we would like to see all of this virus crap disappear within next two months so we can buy more rum and t-shirts.

Liliana


Why does the Virus restrick you from buying more Rum and T-shirts?

Re: EHAS is Updated--no test if fully vaccinated [Re: Lucky13] #276989
03/02/2022 05:16 PM
03/02/2022 05:16 PM
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 49
Kissimmee,Fl
L
Liliana Offline
Traveler
Liliana  Offline
Traveler
L
Joined: Feb 2022
Posts: 49
Kissimmee,Fl
Concur.
Liliana


Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1