Interesting..another couple tried to open at Ke Vilas before Gene and Robin and they never got it started because of the landlord and his alleged changing of the deal..they told me the same story that Gene and Robin are now repeating. That sounds to me like a pattern..Gene and Robin heard those same stories before they got involved but believed and trusted the landlord and what he allegedly told them . I would not risk being the third party to go down that road..