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Re: Yikes - be careful out there!
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01/23/2024 04:10 PM
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I just dont understand how that could happen. The wave action you are seeing is the result of a well forecast North Swell beginning to arrive.
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Re: Yikes - be careful out there!
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01/23/2024 09:47 PM
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Re: Yikes - be careful out there!
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Re: Yikes - be careful out there!
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And with radar and a foresail that L42 likely isn’t in a charter fleet.
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Re: Yikes - be careful out there!
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01/24/2024 11:29 AM
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Not a good look to post a video showing going out without steering or even going out....speaking to the power boat. Not sure what the sail story is
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Re: Yikes - be careful out there!
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01/24/2024 11:35 AM
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Unfortunately, after publicizing the indefensible decision to leave the dock, it doesn't really matter if the grounding had anything to do with the rudder problems.
The owner's outrage at being unfairly judged is almost comical if the whole thing weren't so tragic.
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Re: Yikes - be careful out there!
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Those balls at Mountain Trunk are private. There was big swell. Another forum member communicated with me yesterday enroute to N Sound that the swell was BIG with huge breakers off Savannah Bay. Can’t imagine sea conditions were great in the Mountain Trunk area.
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Re: Yikes - be careful out there!
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01/25/2024 05:03 PM
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The Wandering Hillbilly’s poor decisions were probably, at least in part, driven by his YouTube persona. He had to put up some interesting content. Having guests and not wanting to delay their fun was likely another factor. Ego projected over the internet while on a boat can be a bad recipe. Although the WH knows his boat and handles it well, seamanship encompasses much more than that. His decision to leave the dock without steering (except to go short distance for repairs) is not just poor seamanship, it was potentially dangerous for everyone onboard. He can try to justify it anyway he wants, but it shines a bright light on his lack of judgement a a captain. Regardless of the fact the beaching may have been the direct result of a faulty mooring, the WH was a poor captain overall. well said...his celebrity trumped being a good captain and all the experience in the world doesnt make up for arrogance and recklessness
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Re: Yikes - be careful out there!
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01/27/2024 04:43 PM
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The Wandering Hillbilly posted another video. Kind of hard to watch and I genuinely feel sorry for him and what happened. However, his apparent inability to recognize ANY of his errors is a head-scratcher. He rejects any suggestion that his decision making as Captain was anything less than exemplary. "I have nothing to defend", and "As a Hollywood producer... I eliminate ALL points of failure. I'm a live Holllywood director, I cannot fail." There's footage of the damage and it could very well be a total loss. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2UU2w4Ok0g
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Re: Yikes - be careful out there!
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01/28/2024 11:40 AM
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@tmxmsails - Cooper discourages anchoring because of the sea grass and turtles. I anchor at Norman all the time, but the 50+ foot depth outside of the mooring field means few, if any, charter boats can anchor there. Great Harbour on JVD has such terrible holding that I'd take a mooring there. I've picked up a drifting catamaran, still attached to the mooring, in less than 5 knots of wind at Norman. When I do take a mooring, I will snorkel it and check as much of the line as I can. Recently I took a mooring in Grenada where it looked substantial from the surface but was only a thin polypro line holding me. But other places such as Leverick I can't understand why one would take a mooring - less than 20 feet depth and great holding in sand.
Despite WH's comments, if he'd eliminated all points of failure, he'd still have his boat.
Backing down on a mooring makes sense.
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Re: Yikes - be careful out there!
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01/28/2024 12:04 PM
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In the video he said the previous week he called Sugarcane restaurant, said he wanted to come to lunch, asked if he could put his boat on a mooring and was told he could. He did not know to whom he spoke, and he didn't mention discussing the size of his boat. Does the restaurant own the moorings? He doesn't mention requesting permission on his next visit to use a different mooring. At the end of the video he says he has been in contact with the owner of the mooring, but does not elaborate on that conversation.
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Re: Yikes - be careful out there!
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01/28/2024 01:15 PM
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Sounds like he decided to moor on a Lee shore. He mentioned they decided to swim in because it was too rough to beach the dingy. I can only imagine the pressure of those swells on that mooring. It was loose before he even made it to shore.
Last edited by xrayman67; 01/28/2024 01:33 PM.
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