good news- just found out that i'll be getting two 17lb turkeys compliments of my sister (she gets it every year from her workplace and two of her friends don't want their birds)! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Banana.gif" alt="" /> so i will most definitely be using some of this for the stock recipe. any other turkey recipes would be appreciated...