While I certainly appreciate dock staff helping me I ONLY ever give them a dock line with a loop for the cleat/bollard and ask them to please just put it on -- I always want my crew to control those lines -- not have the dock staff ever have control - crew members wildly throwing coils of line at dock staff and letting them deal with it is the biggest indication for me of inexperienced Captain and crew [if that is what they are told to do.] <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/duh.gif" alt="" />