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Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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05/30/2015 09:01 AM
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Story on the Daily Herald website. Decision is due June 12th. If previous rulings are any indicator, I would say things don't look too good for Marty.
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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05/30/2015 09:15 AM
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Weird, the paper claims there was no lease agreement between him and Alegria. I sure thought he said there was.
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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05/30/2015 09:52 AM
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That's certainly what the PAPER said, but I recall Marty saying he had an agreement with Alegria...
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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05/30/2015 10:14 AM
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He certainly said he had an agreement. However anyone who makes a verbal agreement with those people is not very wise.
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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Verbal agreement - yes; signed - no. We realized after being there last February that the possibility of Marty not being there next year was very real. Too bad.
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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05/30/2015 12:55 PM
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Correct but we are all entited to at least one.
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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LONGISLANDSHARON said: wow, that's harsh... Yes, but always consider the source.
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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05/30/2015 10:22 PM
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Well congratulations!! <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/toast.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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Alegria has done all they can to get Marty out, with out success. Now they are attempting to do what they can including the insults they listed in another attempt to find a legal way to get him to leave. If it was simple and easy for Alegria, it would have been closed for several months.
Marty has created something out of this pool bar that makes it a destination for many that do not even stay at the resort. I hope he at least gets something for all his efforts.
I wish him the best, it sure would be nice to see him get a win against Alegria.
Cheers, Todd
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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<img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Clapping.gif" alt="" /> Alegria has done all they can to get Marty out, with out success. Now they are attempting to do what they can including the insults they listed in another attempt to find a legal way to get him to leave. If it was simple and easy for Alegria, it would have been closed for several months.
Marty has created something out of this pool bar that makes it a destination for many that do not even stay at the resort. I hope he at least gets something for all his efforts.
I wish him the best, it sure would be nice to see him get a win against Alegria.
Augie <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Smile.gif" alt="" /> [color:"red"] I am an agnostic dyslexic who questions if there really is a dog [/color]<img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/Yikes.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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05/31/2015 08:56 AM
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Not true , because they did win the Court case against him.
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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Sorry "they did win the Court case against win".. Huh?
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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Bob_Dot said: My understanding is that a lease must be honored in a bankruptcy action. Weren't the timeshare agreements leases? They weren't honored.
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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I confess to be totally confused as to the legality of the whole thing of whether they need to honor a lease from Manek, which has to be what we're talking about. But, regardless of the personal accusations (which if true, would be damaging to the resort), the DH story said that Alegria claimed that he hasn't paid any rent OR electric or water bills. IF! that's true, I have zero sympathy for someone that doesn't pay their rent...
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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You are correct that we don't know all the facts. But at the end of the day, the fact is that they own the property that the bar is on, and if they want him out, they will ultimately get him out. Whether the resort has any business or not is irrelevant to the question of whether he has a lease or not, and whether he violated the lease. As the owners of the resort, shouldn't they be able to limit who comes in to a bar on their property? SXM law is different from the US, for sure, but here in Florida, he would be out on his ear in a heartbeat, unless he paid ALL the monies due into the court in escrow. SXM law is very different though and my understanding is that people can go on for years without paying rent. But in the end, it's a bar on their property, and unless he has an enforceable lease, he will be out.
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Re: Alegria wants to get rid of The Dream pool bar
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That's absolutely true, Carol, we don't know all the facts. The bottom line is that Alegria wants Marty out, period. Maybe they plan to bring in their own personnel to replace Marty. Good luck with that idea because not one of Marty's followers will ever visit that place again. And, if Alegria plans to rely on it's overnight-hotel guests to fill the bar, good luck as there are no guests at a 3% usage rate. What I find absolutely annoying is that Marty has been accused of creating an unsafe area around the pool by personal actions which is a lot of bull. We've known him for years and he's not the man described in the injunction. The Alegria group wants to take down the Dream Bar. First it was the timeshare owners, then Bliss and then the Chinese restaurant. Look out, everyone, we have here a rich entrepreneur, an Ernst and Young winner, who is unethical and will attempt to remove anyone who gets in his way for personal gain. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/hammer.gif" alt="" />
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