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Re: Rocking, rolly all night long!
[Re: GeorgeC1]
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10/25/2015 09:32 AM
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you can cab it from Great Harbor as well...thus avoiding all of the conversation regarding ground swells, crowded anchorages, dangerous dingy rides and drunken sailors...just sayin.
Jeff
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Re: Rocking, rolly all night long!
[Re: Jccarr]
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10/25/2015 10:53 AM
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This is all great (enlightening) information. We've overnighted at both White Bay and CGB on several occasions and never had an issue (in early December). Weren't even aware that they were fair-weather anchorages. Good to know.
Sailing * Sunning * Snorkeling * Swashbuckling BVI 2003/2006/2008/2015/2016 (My head isn't that big, I'm just closer to the camera ... really ;-)
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Re: Rocking, rolly all night long!
[Re: 3rdTimesaCharm]
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10/25/2015 11:11 AM
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It's interesting that the charter companies don't have a web site devoted to when to stay away from certain bays.
Last edited by warren460; 10/25/2015 01:56 PM.
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Re: Rocking, rolly all night long!
[Re: warren460]
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10/25/2015 11:29 AM
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warren460 said: It's interesting that the charter companies don't have a web site devoted to when to stay away from certain gays. LOL. (Think you got a typo)!!
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Re: Rocking, rolly all night long!
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10/25/2015 01:29 PM
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Re: Rocking, rolly all night long!
[Re: 3rdTimesaCharm]
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10/25/2015 03:07 PM
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I think many, if not most, repeat charterers to the BVI have experienced at least one night of rock-n-roll, if not worse ( as in drifting and colliding boats).
The question becomes, how does one inform the choices made when choosing an overnight location ?
I think the answer to that means being better informed, but getting better information also involves significant choices of HOW to get better information.
Luck only goes so far. The downside of a misinformed choice can be much worse than a sleepless night.
Some learning and reading here, accepting the experiences of others, is not a bad start to informing oneself.
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Re: Rocking, rolly all night long!
[Re: warren460]
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10/25/2015 08:24 PM
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warren460 said: It seems to me that they have that responsibility anyway. The hull damage waiver paid by charterers is not really insurance. It self insurance. If there is a hurricane coming, they notify the charter boats. If their web site even had some links to swell and weather info, that could be helpful. Remember the idea or concept that you have internet coverage on a boat is very new and even with coverage many do not carry the devices. A prudent mariner and competent skipper is expected to be able to determine where and when to anchor on there own. I do not see any of the corporate operators getting into the business on what boats will be safe where on any given night. Keep in mind the location in the harbor can make a difference between OK and disaster. When storm warning are posted by the governing authorities the boats are hailed to return to port. Simply check your cruising guide each anchorage is noted when it is protected, unprotected, and those that are safe only in settled weather. If you are not positive the weather is "settled" do no try to stay there.
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Re: Rocking, rolly all night long!
[Re: StormJib]
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10/26/2015 04:26 PM
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To expand on a question asked earlier, which number matters more, the 'Swell' or 'Swell period'? And how does the secondary swell play a part in it? I heard previously that a swell of more than 3 or 4ft was problematic in CGB and WB. It sounds like there may be more to it, though. Your expert opinions are appreciated. Here's a Windguru reading as reference... http://www.windguru.cz/int/index.php?sc=58
Mike
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Re: Rocking, rolly all night long!
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10/26/2015 09:26 PM
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warren460 said: It seems to me that they have that responsibility anyway. The hull damage waiver paid by charterers is not really insurance. It self insurance. If there is a hurricane coming, they notify the charter boats. If their web site even had some links to swell and weather info, that could be helpful. You are correct, the hull damage waiver is not insurance. Ever charter boat either has an individual policy or is part of a fleet policy. The damage waiver basically covers the deductible of the yacht's insurance policy. Each skipper is responsible for operating the boat safely and ensuring the crew and boat are not harmed. If you feel that you need a website to tell you when and where to anchor/moor safely, please consider hiring a professional captain. Or at least don't charter my boat... ;-)
s/v Snow Dog - Leopard 46
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Re: Rocking, rolly all night long!
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10/26/2015 10:16 PM
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snowdog said:warren460 said: It seems to me that they have that responsibility anyway. The hull damage waiver paid by charterers is not really insurance. It self insurance. If there is a hurricane coming, they notify the charter boats. If their web site even had some links to swell and weather info, that could be helpful. You are correct, the hull damage waiver is not insurance. Ever charter boat either has an individual policy or is part of a fleet policy. The damage waiver basically covers the deductible of the yacht's insurance policy. Each skipper is responsible for operating the boat safely and ensuring the crew and boat are not harmed. If you feel that you need a website to tell you when and where to anchor/moor safely, please consider hiring a professional captain. Or at least don't charter my boat... ;-) This is silly. A website is just another source of information. If you need a chart to know where to anchor/moor safely I guess you don't qualify either?
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Re: Rocking, rolly all night long!
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10/27/2015 11:05 AM
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Looks like somewhat of as N Swell headed to the VI this weekend
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Re: Rocking, rolly all night long!
[Re: warren460]
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10/28/2015 01:59 PM
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