soooo annie, the verdict, and no i didn't burn them again... the recipe, which of course i cannot find now (i should use the rolodex idea come to think of it), needs some fine tuning. wings need some more kick to it. unfortunately, i had premade and froze several dozen batches, so i have to get creative next time around... if i locate the recipe and perfect the necessary adjustments, i promise to share the recipe. as of now, not looking so good. sorry. <img src="http://www.traveltalkonline.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif" alt="" />