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Moving charter yachts out of the BVI?
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10/27/2020 01:13 PM
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One of the comments on one of the newspaper stories said that they had been told by their charter company in the BVI that the charter company was moving all their yachts out of the BVI to the Bahamas? I'm thinking this is BS, but wondered if anyone has heard anything about such plans by yacht charter companies?
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Re: Moving charter yachts out of the BVI?
[Re: Zanshin]
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10/27/2020 01:43 PM
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Thanks, Zanshin. I understand your reluctance to state the source.
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Re: Moving charter yachts out of the BVI?
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10/27/2020 02:05 PM
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I would hazard a guess at Dream Yacht Charters. But who the heck knows
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Re: Moving charter yachts out of the BVI?
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10/27/2020 03:28 PM
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Andiamo - only U.S. flagged vessels can be chartered out of U.S. waters. The majority of BVI-based charter boats have a different flag and thus cannot be chartered from the USVI. I was wondering if I could use my credit with Sunsail by requesting them to deliver a boat to STT where we could board and do a USVI charter. Is that even possible under these rules?
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Re: Moving charter yachts out of the BVI?
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10/27/2020 03:32 PM
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Andiamo - only U.S. flagged vessels can be chartered out of U.S. waters. The majority of BVI-based charter boats have a different flag and thus cannot be chartered from the USVI. I was wondering if I could use my credit with Sunsail by requesting them to deliver a boat to STT where we could board and do a USVI charter. Is that even possible under these rules? I asked that of them today. Big fat no.
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Re: Moving charter yachts out of the BVI?
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10/27/2020 04:49 PM
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It's a matter of survival. I wouldn't blame any business that pulled out of the BVI because they couldn't earn a living.
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Re: Moving charter yachts out of the BVI?
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10/27/2020 07:19 PM
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Economic destruction also comes with increased death rates. Where to find the balance is the problem. G Yes, unemployment will lead to increased substance abuse, depression, lack of medical care, malnourishment, etc. The US economy is resilient and still functioning at a high level despite Covid. The BVI economy is two dimensional. Tourism is now dead and the the financial services are dying. Covid is not going away anytime soon. The BVI politicians have their heads in the sand once again. I feel terrible for the good people I have met over the years who are suffering without incomes.
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Re: Moving charter yachts out of the BVI?
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10/27/2020 08:29 PM
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Economic destruction also comes with increased death rates. Where to find the balance is the problem. G Yes, unemployment will lead to increased substance abuse, depression, lack of medical care, malnourishment, etc. The US economy is resilient and still functioning at a high level despite Covid. The BVI economy is two dimensional. Tourism is now dead and the the financial services are dying. Covid is not going away anytime soon. The BVI politicians have their heads in the sand once again. I feel terrible for the good people I have met over the years who are suffering without incomes. They really don’t care they can fish and not have to work anymore. It’s a good thing for most.
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Re: Moving charter yachts out of the BVI?
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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10/28/2020 03:42 PM
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Not so soon Mal. I am sure that somehow the government will work out a way that the cruise ships can come to Tortola.
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Re: Moving charter yachts out of the BVI?
[Re: sisterblysse]
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10/28/2020 03:51 PM
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Actually, the USVI is outside the purview of the Jones Act, which covers domestic shipping and passenger carriage in the US (but not the USVI). So non-US-flagged vessels may engage in commerce in the USVI. They still have to meet US Coast Guard rules and regs.
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Re: Moving charter yachts out of the BVI?
[Re: Carol_Hill]
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10/29/2020 07:04 PM
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What I don't understand is that I don't see where the BVI people are stepping up and asking the government to come up with a better solution. Am I missing something?
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Re: Moving charter yachts out of the BVI?
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10/31/2020 01:02 PM
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Actually, the USVI is outside the purview of the Jones Act, which covers domestic shipping and passenger carriage in the US (but not the USVI). So non-US-flagged vessels may engage in commerce in the USVI. They still have to meet US Coast Guard rules and regs.
Jones Act regulates cargo. The Passenger Vessel Service Act of 1886 governs passenger cabotage. See Wikipedia Wikipedia here
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Re: Moving charter yachts out of the BVI?
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10/31/2020 02:56 PM
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The USVI are a special and complicated case for charter boats. Bareboating I think that the flag doesn't matter, but chartered boats the crew cannot be US citizen but foreigners with the correct visas and that would be legal. @Zanshin - I think the opposite may be the case. US flagged boats with US crew are going to have an easier time in the USVIs. I think captain also has to have a US charter license....might be easier to get for 6 or fewer PAX. That's what I recall after checking into it a few years ago. The rules and regs might be different now.
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